Methane Gas: Animal Agriculture is the Problem!
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@tranquilocito Are you seriously suggesting that the bison living in America were an ecological problem? Or a global warming problem?- That would make the people who shot them out eco warriors of the first order! Don't you see the weakness of your argument?
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@tranquilocito NewZealands "commitment" to the forestry fraternity in New Zealand is $1.9 billion per year = $441 for every person in the country. Taken by direct and indirect taxation by the government and paid to the forestry industry. Methane is adjudged to be 46.6% of that total. So a family of 4 is paying $800 per year for methane. See the NZ government website for the percentages. The tax amount they never commit to writing but it is often mentioned in TV interviews
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@tranquilocito When you say abrupt drop - how much was that? And in any case, people where not threatened either before or after the event. The nonsense focus on methane deflects from the real culprit , which is carbon dioxide. So people are giving themselves false comfort by "solving" the methane problem, while carbon dioxide has less focus and is a much more difficult problem to tackle. Let's face it , if carbon deposits were not being burnt for energy, we would never have noticed methane.
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@tranquilocito A direct comparison is not valid for 2 reasons. 1 The methane levels have remained the same since the 90's , but the presumption is that methane is building up as carbon dioxide is & 2 If there is a natural reduction of methane by breakdown of this extremely unstable gas, why tax people to try and do what is already being done?
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Explain the natural emissions of Methane that the ocean produces in mass quantities...
methane is not a persistent gas like carbon dioxide, so a direct comparison using only the infra red absorbance is invalid. There is no proof that there are more ruminants now than 10 000 years ago. Nearly all the bison(ruminants) in America were killed. The globe did not cool as a result. In any case why is Kyotot taxing milk producers and not oil producers? Just check the budget of their respective lobbyists!
robzoneutube 1 year ago
@robzoneutube The globe did cool as a result - see the paper of Felisa A. Smith of the University of New Mexico assisted by Scott M. Elliott of Los Alamos National Laboratory and Lyons. And to your other point: Why should a direct comparison of those gases be invalid, even if methane is not as persistent as carbon dioxide?
tranquilocito 1 year ago
@robzoneutube Here another text from secondary literature: The extinction of megafauna closely coincides with an abrupt drop in atmospheric methane concentration at the onset of the Younger Dryas. Scientists estimate that prior to the extinction event, large-bodied herbivores in the Americas released about 9.6 Tg of methane to the atmosphere annually.
tranquilocito 1 year ago
@robzoneutube further....The loss of these species could be responsible for 12.5 to 100% of the overall methane decline. Atmospheric methane concentrations during the past 15,000 years are derived from the Greenland ice core samples.
tranquilocito 1 year ago
@robzoneutube Kyoto is taxing milk producers? Where? In your country? Never heard of that until now...
tranquilocito 1 year ago
Thats like saying get rid of all the humans on the planet? We produce methane too? Obviously you don't know anything about dairy farming because it isn't cruel at all. And if milk isn't healthy then why do human mothers produce it for their young? It is one of the most nutrient rich liquids. You're sounding more and more like a memeber of PETA every time you post somthing. Let it go you can't stop animal agriculture.
webermsu1 2 years ago
You misunderstand. You do not know about methane from cows? Humans do not emit such amounts. And mother milk is good for babies, sure. But cows milk is for cows and nowadays has all those hormones, antibiotics and germs. And moreover it has casein, which is known to be responsible for promoting cancer in humans.
tranquilocito 2 years ago