Re: The Internet & the Transformation of Public Space: Habermas

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  • Great response. Thank you.

    The role of so-called 'actors (action) and spectators (spectacle)' is a huge part of this issue. I am interested in these roles being blurred.

    The various spectacles are intentionally deployed to silence the spectator.

    By the way... I am from Melbourne, Australia. :)

  • How about coining a new word: "spectactor"?

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  • @verylikeakitten Very good question.

  • Great video! It's great to see someone else using youtube to provoke public debate :-)

  • That's what I found most shocking about the war in Iraq, is how soldiers were sent in without even U.N. approval. I don't like war unless it's absolutely necessary, and I think everyone would agree that Saddam was a bad guy, but there must be other ways of helping a country live better, and have a more peaceful world without having to resort to conflict.

  • I think you're right that McLuhan has a bearing on this - in that he felt that the content was less important than the change in public attitudues and behaviour that are engendered by the medium. What influences does the medium of YouTube have on us and would McLuhan think it was possible to free oneself from those influences? He postulated that the content might have little effect on society - in which case it doesn't matter what we say here, the effect will be the same...?

  • We must be aware of what you have brought up here... Are you familiar with Mcluhan's notion that "the medium is the message"? YouTube may be predisposed toward self-indulgent narcissism. But is it necessarily so? I am hopeful that the answer depends entirely on our willingness to break free of the limits imposed on us by the medium and to actually communicate rather than revel in our own self-created frames of reference.

  • I think we need an ideology critique of Web 2.0. It seems good. The temporal and geographical boundaries to discourse are removed such that I can enter into a 10 month old, US:Australia conversation from my living room in the UK. But I wonder, are there vested interests in Web 2.0 that are being worked out under the mantel of the general good? Is it providing us with a platform for rational critical debate, or are we players in someone else's game?

  • LOL... it reminds me of the so-called 'web 2.0' term 'prosumer'. That is a consumer and a producer rolled into one.

    Zizek talks about 'intersubjectivity' which is an interesting critique of these ideas too.

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