Voddie Baucham answers the age old question, if God is so powerful and good, why do bad things happen?
This is a clip of Voddie Baucham's message "The Supremacy of Christ and Truth in a Postmodern World" given at the 2006 Desiring God National Conference.
For the entire message, go here: http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/conference-messages/the-supremacy...
Video used with permission from John Piper. © Desiring God. Website: desiringGod.org
@jayjaygee123 I’m glad we agree on truth, reason, & science, that’s good. But, here’s what I’m thinking: Voddie’s response to these students (a) potentially harms their self concept without offering (b) a compensating, greater good. Additionally (c) his response not only displays, but models intolerance. Hence the bigotry.
I’m not asking you to agree (we may never), but I’m just wondering if this makes any sense to you (& if not, why not)
chrismca 21 minutes ago
@jayjaygee123 But, to your question: I guess if someone told me “you have a gift,” I’d just do the usual; that is, make a best guess at their intention, and react accordingly. I’d guess 99.999% of folks mean it only as an expression of good will and genuine kindness. When I tell folks what I do for a living, sometimes they respond “God bless you” (honest, I’m not BS-ing you) - obviously 100% kind-hearted. Both the “gift” and “bless” statements have neither potential for harm nor show intolerance
chrismca 29 minutes ago
@chrismca I'd agree with you on truth, reason and science all being good principles, but apparently we'd disagree on where these come from. Tell me; does it befoul someone's character to tell them "you have a gift" when referring to their area of expertise? Is this not a compliment? If you really feel a man is a bigot for telling you you're ungrateful than it seems to me you've got the meaning of the word "bigotry" reversed.
jayjaygee123 10 hours ago
@idlepink17 Here’s how Voddie’s unethical: Years of teaching at universities made me love their commitment to truth, reason, and science. I also love and value things these principles give humankind (medicines, etc) So when I hear Voddie speak this way to students based on nothing more than his supernatural beliefs, I feel contempt and scorn (not fear) based on my years (no knee-jerk) on campus. Attitudes like his befoul colleges, and no institution worthy of the title should allow such bigotry.
chrismca 17 hours ago
@idlepink17 You can’t respond rationally to any of my points, so you try to just attack me instead?
Ok, how did you do?
1) You claim that I “like spewing $10 words”
Is a decent vocabulary truly beyond you? As for mine, see Mark Twain’s1988 quote about “the right word.”
Also, you’ve caused me to suspect your reading comprehension skills:
2) You claim that I think “a belief necessitates certain action”
Wrong, I wrote “beliefs, in part, drive actions.” So, is the concept “in part” also beyond you?
chrismca 17 hours ago
@idlepink17 3) You claim I “demand facts with sources"’
-Wrong, I demanded nothing. I wrote “Respond if you like” This also escapes you?
4) You claim I “don't provide any” facts with sources.
-Wrong, I cited the fact “that the will has multiple parts” and suggest you consult sources like a “reference on epistemology” or Mook’s book
Discussion containing facts & sources is better & more helpful to understanding. So unless you can “bring something to the table” that’s at least accurate, so long
chrismca 17 hours ago
I appreciate this. God really does love us - He truly is patient always & His love does not keep a record of our sins.
duchesssarah81 1 day ago
"I hate the builders of dungeons in the air... Ascending souls congratulate each other on the admirable harmonies of the world." - Ralph Waldo Emmerson
brailleGraffiti 1 day ago