Remember the St Patricio Battalion.
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thanks brothers forever grateful for what you did for us
Gracias
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@Nanjing03 Continued>> In conclusion, I cannot take away their bravery in battle. They fought well, as did the other fighting men of both Mexico and the United States despite the less than honorable leadership from Washington and Mexico City. As a veteran of war myself, I can say that warriors ultimately fight for each other, and often for ungrateful nations. That was the case on both sides. While it is proper that Mexico honor these men, it was likewise that they would be hung if captured.
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@Nanjing03 continued >> However, to commit treason is unconscionable. We still have no clear answer why. It is only rumored that they were upset about not going to Holy Mass. Surely, that is not a good enough reason. There is the excuse that some other U.S. soldiers committed atrocities. Perhaps, but all 19th century armies in the world did. Some of these men had fought in European wars on the side of the British Army and there were brutal and shameful acts there too. Continued >>
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@maialca You have to review the history of the United States to see that the Irish have a long, and sometimes unusual history here. Some were Catholics and others were Anglicans, and both prospered and fit in well regardless of whether they were in the North or the South. The members of the Batallion de San Patricio chose not to conform or assimilate, something that every immigrant to a new land must do. My family's history here is recent and I understand that it is not easy. Continued>>
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Mexicans today have an undying gratitude to our Irish brothers for having come to our aid in our hour of most need. They will be remembered forever and I hope that one day we have the opportunity to repay them. In the name of Mexicans everywhere, thank you Ireland!
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@Nanjing03 I believe you have no idea what you are talking about. Mexico today is not a "corrupt and despotic junta led by thugs", our goverment is a democracy, it has it's defects, but so do others, including the U.S. Back in the 1840's Mexico had it's problems, but unlike the U.S., Mexico had already banned slavery. The brave men of the Batallon (not Brigade) de San Patricio saw that it was an unjust war of agression and back then the Irish were treated like trash in the U.S.
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@Nanjing03 Mexico same today? LOL. There's a whole debate there. World War II is a different world from Mexico in the 1840s. Remember ALL Catholics didn't defect, but something motivated those soldiers in sizable numbers to defend Mexico. Prejudice against US Catholics (20th century) isn't 18th/19th cent. hatred against them. People naturally search for real reasons why these men flocked to defend Mexico. Researchers highlight religion & prejudice as likely causes (agree debatable).
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@joebombero1, really? My family is Catholic. It didn't stop my father and uncles, who were in the U.S. Army, from invading Italy and fighting Italian Catholic troops who were allied with the Nazis during World War II. They fought all the way to Rome and beyond. Let's not take this "Catholic solidarity" thing too far. Remember too, Mexico in 1848, just as they are now -- a corrupt and despotic junta led by thugs. The Irish Brigade fought well no doubt, but they still committed treason.
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Honor y gloria a los heroes IIrlandeses que dieron su vida por mi y mi gente, mis respetos a Inglaterra y sus nobles ciudadanos. Saludos desde México con mucho amor.
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It is a great movie starring Tom Berrenger (One Man's Hero) and a great book. Living on the Mexican border, I have long known about the San Patricios. I think Catholics understand Catholic nations and cultures better than Protestant ones. I can easily see how a Catholic would have difficulty participating in the invasion of a Catholic nation, especially because of the prejudice against various ethnicities that has always haunted the US.
Interesting, the comment about threatening to shoot Mexicans who retreated is an ancient Celtic custom. Roman writers record that in battle, they would cut down their own warriors if they retreated. Old habits die hard I guess.
BTW, check out the battle of Fonteroy where the small Irish brigade charged the British Army relentlessly, taking horrific casualties but turned a French retreat into a victory, forcing the Brits to leave the field at a cost of 80% casualties.
Cathain78 2 years ago 4
FOREVER TO BE REMEMBER SAN PATRICK BATTALION!!!!!!!! CAUSE THEY FOUGHT FOR WHAT IT WAS RIGHT!!!!!! NOT FOR GREED!!!!!!OR TYRANNY!!!!! OR PERSECUTION!!!HEROES NEVER DIE THEY JUST FADE AWAY BUT THEY WILL LIVE FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS!!!!!.......................
BISMARCK875 5 months ago 3