Wagner's Famous Rienzi Melody
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@OldSchopenhauer Would he have? Would he not have? Questions for philosophers, I would think. I'd also expect that "fans" of anyone's writing would be more thoroughly obsessive over the object of their fanaticism. You've probably been running into pea-cocking pseudo-intellectuals, not true fans. And I should think it is quite important to show evidence of Nietzsche's bias directly from his writing before making powerful claims as to his opinions on the topics discussed herein.
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@OldSchopenhauer Your supposition rests upon the unfounded and silly notion that Nietzsche would have joined the Nazis because he wrote about the Aryans and Pre-Aryan races. lol. How stupid.
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@OldSchopenhauer I see. In my copy of GM translated by Horace Barnett Samuel, it appears on page 14. But he was not advocating, as the Nazis did, the return of a biological race called the Aryans. GM is not a blueprint for biological determinism or racial purity.
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@martynblackburn1977 No, I'm talking about the Aryan master race as stated in The Genealogy of Morality. Nietzsche's fans are so ignorant of his actual writing.
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@OldSchopenhauer If you are talking about the Superman, then that not related at all to the Aryan master race. The Superman was one individual type.
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@martynblackburn1977 Ironically Nietzsche wrote about the Aryan master race, and Hitler did not.
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@PersonalityDeficit87 Nietzsche would never join the Nazis. Nietzsche was anti-anti-Semitic, and he despised socialism. He also rejected Christianity, which Hitler could not.
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@marcusantonius90 Get a fucking grip asswipe. If Wagner had lived long enough he'd have joined the Nazi party, undoubtedly. So would Nietzsche.
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It was very right to close here, because afterwards only comes all that, what Wagners time had on Dschingderassabummbumm' (German said). That was not quite the later genius, only one of his youthworks - whithout this melody.
I find this to be the most beautiful melody I have heard in any classical music.
aixelsydyslexia 1 year ago 31
I just love that piece
RoyalistUK 2 years ago 18