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  • @dadeskr

    No... If I celebrated a Muslim holiday in a non-muslim way... I would be mocking their religion. And I would be in the wrong. I respect Islam and every major religion on this planet. I wouldn't disrespect them by trashing on their culture and traditions. The same way that you mock Christians by taking part in their culture and holidays.

  • @dadeskr if you went as a non muslim to a muslim holiday that would be more odd than retarded, it is not as socially acceptable, at least it seems that way, for non believers to partake in and remove the faith aspect from originally muslim holidays than it is for us to do the same to originally christian holidays, which we have.

  • If you celebrate an originally muslim holiday but as a non muslim (ie you leave out the islamic aspect of the holiday) then what you are celebrating is not a muslim holiday. This is exactly what has happened to Christmas, it is a religious ceremony for some and secular for others. At the moment only muslims celebrate muslim holidays but that doesn't mean in the future they wont be secularised as well for some people.

  • @dadeskr

    When did I say I was anti-science? That's yet again another stawman. There's nothing scientific about atheism. There's no scientific evidence for atheism. I really get tired of atheists trying to tie the two together. If you think it's thinking for yourself... FINE connect the dots for me. But until then stop being a smug a-hold. You have nothing to be smug about.

  • I believe in things that are scientifically testable and logical, if you want to call that foolish crap, then go ahead. So being able to think for yourself is a mental disease... right. I think you might be the one who is brainwashed if you believe that.

  • @dadeskr

    If I do go celebrate that Muslim holiday as a non-muslim... I'm a retard. But I guess you're free to be a retard too.

  • @dadeskr

    Christ·mas [kris-muhs] Show IPA

    noun

    1.

    the annual festival of the Christian church commemorating the birth of Jesus: celebrated on December 25 and now generally observed as a legal holiday and an occasion for exchanging gifts.

    I'm going to go out back and climb my dinosaur now.

    You know why I don't celebrate a Jewish holiday? Because I'm not Jewish... nor a hypocrite.

  • @dadeskr

    Ok so I get 5 of my friends to call it a dinosaur. Now it's a dinosaur right? Same argument. Don't be a hypocrite. Besides the sheer number of people don't matter. If something is a fact it is what it is despite the number of people that think differently.

  • if you think the arguments are at all similar then you are deluded.You may think a secular christmas is nonsensical but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, you can complain all you like, it makes no difference. It's funny how upset it makes you. You celebrate religiously, I'll celebrate non religiously and we'll both have a bit of joy and hope in our lives and the lives of friends and family during the long winter days because really THAT is what Christmas or any winter festivities are about.

  • @dex1391 it is irrelevent because only YOU are calling the tree a dinosaur. You know it's a tree so you are just saying it isn't for arguments sake. And a tree and a dinosaur are very different things. On the other hand a Christian and non Christian christmas are pretty similar the only difference really is the religion or lack of, which even in christian Christmas tends only to play a minor role. Also LOADS of people have secular xmas rather than just you with the tree.

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