A Note From Vadimcream

A note from Vadimcream read by me. Vadim's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThAbYKww68U

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[SaelPalani]

@dragonmatt5 I have a video for you coming up in about 10 minutes

[dragonmatt5]

@panthera50

I did not say you replied nor harassed anyone. Just because I call similarity between blocking does not mean I call similarity between all other aspects. Just the same I can say 2 people have same color hair without having to say it means they have same eye color as well. You assume and extrapolate my argument needlessly. So if you would kindly stop attempting to tell me my argument so you can present this farce of it that you precede to defend yourself against.

[panthera50]

@dragonmatt5 By not engaging anymore, I do not stoop to their level.

I simply dont listen to crap anymore.

And I do NOT reply, nor harrass people, so what's your point ?

If you want to induldge in further drama, go ahead, I am done with you.

Bye.

[dragonmatt5]

@S 2 I am aware that trust issues would have to arise after such an incident, but I suppose I simply figured one could maintain less formal ties and more casual friendships while still arguing the subject. I should have noticed you tend to get closer then just internet comrade-at-arms.

However I still feel this seclusion will only stagnate the debate. But I guess you're between a rock and a hard place, and emotionally drained is not the best time to be lectured on debate etiquette. I am sorry.

[dragonmatt5]

@SaelPalani Fine, you specified it is mostly that small crew. While I will say there is still associative blame present, given the "anyone who affiliated" bit, I do understand why you would be trepidatious. However I find it a little unsettling that the dishonest fuckery of that group finally did what it seemed to want from the start; get you lot to withdraw from the fight.

And this paranoia can be used, straw manned and lead to even more intellectual decay in the discussion on the subject.

[SaelPalani]

@drag 2. WHY? Because that group does not uphold honesty. So if you're affiliated with them in ANY way, most feminists NOW will look upon you with suspicion. This is why ALL the dishonest shit needs to be called out and the socks and the bullshit trolling needs to be called out. Nobody can separate who is who precisely because of the DISHONEST fuckery of that group. How much clearer do I have to be to get this point across?

[SaelPalani]

@dragonmatt5 Them, meaning anyone on YouTube who is part of that group or who affiliates with it by perpetuating the lies. The PROBLEM now is that NOBODY on the feminist side of things KNOWS who is being honest and real and who isn't. And THAT is due to that group of people being dishonest. Ppl have just HAD to block a whole slew of people because of the shady tactics employed by that group. Do you understand that? So yes, if you're a good person, the group you associate with DOES affect you.

[dragonmatt5]

@SaelPalani

The retaliation I refer to is the blocking of people because some people on pro side blocked you. But again this is a moot point if your "them" is just the small vocal minority you have been dealing with and not the entirety of those who call themselves pro.

Finally, while justified to ignore Div's crew, I have to ask what resolution or new ideas could you hope to find if you remove yourself entirely from discussion and opt to just use the echo chamber that is your close friends?

[SaelPalani]

@dragonmatt5 Who cares the way it was worded. Everyone who's been on YouTube for the last 4 months should get this. There is a group of people on YouTube who have done nothing but engage in calculated DISHONESTY and they have been blocked, not only by pan but by many other feminists. THEIR method is the fucked up one here. So feminists just BLOCKED them all because we don't know who is who anymore. Feminists didn't start that shit.

[dragonmatt5]

@SaelPalani

There is more people on both sides of the issue then "you" and "them". And for the third time, would you please clarify your "them". It is my primary source of contention here, when the only trait of the "them" given is they are dishonest and they are pro and you toss it out like there are only the two factions in the world. So again, is the "them" the little click you have been having issues with or is it anyone who would side on the pro side?