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The Thorons - Dont Eliminate Marriage for Anyone

http://www.NoOnProp8.com Sam and Julia Thoron offer a heartfelt message about their daughter, Liz, whose right to marry the person she loves will be eliminated if Prop 8 passes. Support the No On ...  
 
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asphyxiateDrake00 (1 month ago) Show Hide
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Let's just take the word "marriage" out of the constitutions and law books. Let's have heterosexual couples call their romantic unification a "civil union," at least on a legal level; it's only fair. Heterosexuals would still be able go get "married" at the church of their choice and still get the legal benefits equal to what is currently called "marriage" today. This is truly equal status under the law--and otherwise.
coxpc1 (1 month ago) Show Hide
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That is a VERY GOOD POINT.

The church should be involved in a celebration, not the creation of a legal document.

How about we ALL get civil unions for the sake of our governmental/legal needs.
Marriage is for male/female.

How about a new legal term - mergeage for unions other than male/female.

It sounds similar, and it portrays the meaning well enough.

What do you think?
asphyxiateDrake00 (1 month ago) Show Hide
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The point is that when dealing with legal affairs, the term "marriage" should not be used due to it's religious affiliation--it's unfair to people who don't have a religion that "marries."
But in addition to this, we must also satisfy the wants of gay and lesbian couples who don't want their relationship to be called something different because it is not equal treatment to have your relationship called something else.
To the church, you can be "married."
To the gov't, "(civilly) unionized."
idaman12345 (2 months ago) Show Hide
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last line should have been Yes on 8 is DISCRIMINATION
because it is not reality
SeanChapin1 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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minkpank, the CA Supreme Court ruled on the procedure of Prop 8, which is different from its ruling on Prop 22 from 2000 in which it overturned the legal ban on gay marriage then, and in addition, the 5/26/09 ruling also stated that gay marriages performed before 11/4/08 remained legal, so saying that the CA Supreme Court ruled that marriage is between one man and a woman is inaccurate.
SeanChapin1 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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minkpank, what do you mean by Monkey Island?
mike2jb (5 months ago) Show Hide
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coxpc: "THOUSANDS of years "??
In just the last century marriage has meant two people of the same race (till that was changed), two people who had never been married before (till that was changed) and one man with several women (still does in some countries).

And "separate but equal" has NEVER been truly equal in this country.

What exactly makes you think you're so much better than your gay neighbors that they should have to support you with their unequal taxes and Social Security benefits?
SeanChapin1 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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coxpc1, the LGBT community wants dignity, respect and full equal civil human rights, which includes the right to same-sex marriage, similar to African-Americans wanting to drink from the same water fountain decades ago. Homosexuality has been feared instead of understood for millenniums, and only in the last half-century have we better understood gay people towards further evolution of society. Would you trade your marriage for a civil union? The Vermont Governor emphatically said no.
coxpc1 (1 month ago) Show Hide
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I don't think I'm better.
I simply disagree that a union between two people of the same sex should be called a marriage.
It's impossible to do a full explanation in 500 characters
Frankly, I don't think the government should have ANYTHING to do with what happens in anyones bedroom.
What you or anyone else does there is between you and God (if you have any beliefs) - NOTE: I am saying this with a smile, not a tone......
mike2jb (1 month ago) Show Hide
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coxpc: "I don't think I'm better."
-- Of course you do. You think you deserve rights that you want to deny to your neighbors.

"I simply disagree that a union between two people of the same sex should be called a marriage."
-- Called a marriage by whom? Your neighbor? My pastor? Why is it any of your business what words these people use?

"I don't think the government should have ANYTHING to do with what happens in anyones bedroom."
-- Marriage rights are not about that and you know it.

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