The Thorons - Dont Eliminate Marriage for Anyone

last line should have been Yes on 8 is DISCRIMINATION
because it is not reality

The fact that Prop 8 was upheld by the California Supreme Court has no negative impact upon an individual's choice to participate in Monkey Island behavior with another individual who is inclined to participate in the same. The court's ruling does nothing to limit, restrict or prevent the free participation of Monkey Island antics. The ruling only affirms that these behaviors will not be legally defined as marriage in California. Opposition supporters have lost nothing except for their dignity.

minkpank, what do you mean by Monkey Island?

Yes on 8 is pure discrimination. Not giving equal rights to gay's just promotes inequality which directly contradicts what America is supposed to be all about.

People who say that no on prop 8 goes against tradition so it should be banned are the equivalent to the people from history that opposed equal rights to black people and women. No matter how they justify it they are trying to take away someone's rights.

May 26 2009 California Supreme Court rules 6-1, that marriage is between one man and one woman. Celebration not elimination!

minkpank, the CA Supreme Court ruled on the procedure of Prop 8, which is different from its ruling on Prop 22 from 2000 in which it overturned the legal ban on gay marriage then, and in addition, the 5/26/09 ruling also stated that gay marriages performed before 11/4/08 remained legal, so saying that the CA Supreme Court ruled that marriage is between one man and a woman is inaccurate.

Very simply: The definition of the WORD Marriage has for THOUSANDS of years meant only one thing. The union of a MAN & A WOMAN.

I have no problem with civil unions to guarantee civil rights the same as marriage - just don't call it "marriage".

Equal status under the law.

Why do the GLTB community want to use the word "marriage" anyway???

coxpc: "THOUSANDS of years "??
In just the last century marriage has meant two people of the same race (till that was changed), two people who had never been married before (till that was changed) and one man with several women (still does in some countries).

And "separate but equal" has NEVER been truly equal in this country.

What exactly makes you think you're so much better than your gay neighbors that they should have to support you with their unequal taxes and Social Security benefits?

coxpc1, the LGBT community wants dignity, respect and full equal civil human rights, which includes the right to same-sex marriage, similar to African-Americans wanting to drink from the same water fountain decades ago. Homosexuality has been feared instead of understood for millenniums, and only in the last half-century have we better understood gay people towards further evolution of society. Would you trade your marriage for a civil union? The Vermont Governor emphatically said no.

Let's just take the word "marriage" out of the constitutions and law books. Let's have heterosexual couples call their romantic unification a "civil union," at least on a legal level; it's only fair. Heterosexuals would still be able go get "married" at the church of their choice and still get the legal benefits equal to what is currently called "marriage" today. This is truly equal status under the law--and otherwise.