Bib2. Gospel of Luke, Marcion, Theophilus, and The Simple Solution. Bible Dates 2

After doing some cross-referencing, a very simple solution is beginning to emerge. This video, will hopefully, explain that solution. It is not 100% yet, there's one caveat I have to deal with. But its looking good right now.

For more on Theophilus, wiki is a good place to start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophilus_of_Antioch



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[jamesbonq]

It doesn't make any sense for JM to quote Marcion, since he hated him. I have only looked through JM's first apology and his dialogue with Trypho, but I could not find any quotes that need to be attributed to Luke. Everything can come from a proto version of Matthew. JM quotes his version of matthew extensively, whereas Luke-John quotes are absent. If he had Luke, there would be more direct quotes. When did Christians decide that there could be 4 conflicting versions of Christ?

[Xoroaster]

@jamesbonq Justin Martyr's version, is by itself at least the 4th or 5th version of Christianity. JM's objection to Marcion had nothing to do with "The Gospel of the Lord". Marcion's Gospel, and his entire canon, was basically the same story as the later synoptics, but slightly more Docetic. JM doesn't seem to object to Docetism, or G-Marcion, or Pauline Texts, just the Demiurge. But the stories are all basically the same.

[jamesbonq]

@Xoroaster Doesn't JM embrace the virgin Mary/Bethlehem baggage? I looked for a Luke quote, I found the "blood sweat" and "pass the cup" reference, which is Matthean. The "blood sweat" seems like it could be from Luke 22:44, but Luke admits he ripped his gospel from.... probably JM's proto Matthew. Acts is an attempt to make Paul seem subject to the apostles, and analysis supposedly shows the same author as Luke. I noticed also that Theophilus was related to Marcion, somehow, from Vridar's site.

[Xoroaster]

@jamesbonq The closest thing to a "luke exclusive" quote that I found, was in the next video I think. It was infancy, but it was ripped from the Gospel of James. JM didn't have Luke. He did have Matthew and the Gospel of James. I think it was in Dialogue 100.

There is that "other problem."  I noticed that the John Epistles, 1 2 3 John, were never quoted by Justin, but Justin's philosophy is entirely consistent. I think John Epistles were created from Justin Martyr's "On the Resurrection."

[pandirasbox]

Mark is a readers digest of Matthew ;)

[Xoroaster]

@Xoroaster Oops...here's that video

/watch?v=mPbG4dAeU_c

[Xoroaster]

@MrEpictetus lolz. I already know of the manuscripts. I know what evidence they give, and what christians assume the evidence is. "Even Wikipedia". Yikes!

Here's my Tertullian/Marcion video:

I've already explored Tertullian, and did a video on him. You want to take his word, fine. I don't really care. I'm not looking for a bunch of BS guesses, I'm not looking for a bunch of lies, nor do I accept heresy claims just because its convenient. I'm looking for evidence.