Only watch if you are open in your belief and consider that there may be a God. If not, then please I encourage you not to watch because it will do nothing but anger you.
"These things are not applicable for today", I don't care. I have no interest in worshipping a god that at one time or any time approved of such highly immoral things. And when you say you don't want to talk to the 'close minded ones', isn't that just your own projection? I am open - to reason, rational arguments. You're the one that can't consider that you could be wrong.
By the way, regarding OT, the main issue for me is that Christians like to claim that their god is the eternal and unchanging standard of objective morality, which implies that all of OT is objectively good, including burning little girls in Leviticus 21:9. It's just not enough to say that such completely unnecessary barbarism is for another time. I can not even imagine a context that could make such things "good" and to claim it can be amounts to a contradiction falsifying Yahweh in my eyes.
In the particular case of Jesus there are more issues than simple believability of the historical claims though(Such as having to agree with the bible's view on morality, which is necessary to accept the idea that your moral responsibility can be forgiven by some torturing some proxy), but that's at least one thing that has to be in place before you'll convert anyone who aren't just desperate to join any kind of social organization.
I suppose I'm not in your target audience, but I'm not offended by such things so I'd watch it. From my point of view, the main failure here is that you're presenting a full-on emotional argument, when what most atheists are looking for is the evidence for why any of it is true. You must admit that if the story about Jesus is largely made up, then the fact that you find the story moving should not be an argument to accept it as true, so it always comes back to the evidence.
"These things are not applicable for today", I don't care. I have no interest in worshipping a god that at one time or any time approved of such highly immoral things. And when you say you don't want to talk to the 'close minded ones', isn't that just your own projection? I am open - to reason, rational arguments. You're the one that can't consider that you could be wrong.
kainedamo 1 month ago
By the way, regarding OT, the main issue for me is that Christians like to claim that their god is the eternal and unchanging standard of objective morality, which implies that all of OT is objectively good, including burning little girls in Leviticus 21:9. It's just not enough to say that such completely unnecessary barbarism is for another time. I can not even imagine a context that could make such things "good" and to claim it can be amounts to a contradiction falsifying Yahweh in my eyes.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
In the particular case of Jesus there are more issues than simple believability of the historical claims though(Such as having to agree with the bible's view on morality, which is necessary to accept the idea that your moral responsibility can be forgiven by some torturing some proxy), but that's at least one thing that has to be in place before you'll convert anyone who aren't just desperate to join any kind of social organization.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
I suppose I'm not in your target audience, but I'm not offended by such things so I'd watch it. From my point of view, the main failure here is that you're presenting a full-on emotional argument, when what most atheists are looking for is the evidence for why any of it is true. You must admit that if the story about Jesus is largely made up, then the fact that you find the story moving should not be an argument to accept it as true, so it always comes back to the evidence.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
Dude you're awesome! It's soo cool to see a Christian on youtube for once!
thenewkids93 2 months ago