Elminster vs. Raistlin

My views on the much argued over battle between Elminster and Raistlin.

(Yes I play D&D. No Elminster would not necessarily win just looking at stats. If you look at the last issue of Dragon magazine where this is discussed, who would win statistically, and story wise, is uncertain.)

(Also may I point out here that its incredibly ridiculous for people to get upset over my opinions on a battle between two book characters, who would never meet because they are part of two different series.)

(The word views was previously misspelled, I am so very sorry for the small puppies this caused harm to, or whatever other evil this typo has caused. You can thank your hero joscarpetz11 for pointing it out in such a 'smooth' and 'snarky' manner all while highlighting the seriousness of my mistake. Sir I salute you for your biting and important addition to the comments on this video.)

NOTE: This message is for anyone watching who took offense. Calm down. It's a book character; I can't prove that Raistlin is better than Elminster anymore than someone can 'prove' their religious views. This is posted partially because it's my opinion and partially because I am making comments that are utterly ridiculous and impossible to prove because I think it's funny, I apologise to anyone who took anything I said in the video as an insult, it was not meant in this way. Please keep in mind that both Raistlin and Elminster are just fictional characters and it is not something to start freaking out over.

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[TheBaconlaser]

Enough of this old crap. You people need to embrace modern fantasy like Harry Potter & Twilight.

[defectiveillusions]

@TheBaconlaser I like Harry Potter...not as much as other works of fantasy but I am a fan...Twilight on the other hand I wouldn't call fantasy so much as the shit that the author of it took on the world and it just kept coming...she must eat a lot of cherries or something...not sure, but it's like cherries, a pretty idea until it came out...I mean who thought anyone could fuck up the already fucked up genre of vampire romance.

[Roks17]

What is the song background, please?

[defectiveillusions]

@Roks17 Oooh I don't even know anymore, I think I just googled free to use music or something.

[PAPAKEVINONADOLPHIN]

Elminster escapes from the Nine Hells, though it was with the help of the Simbul. However, he does almost completely extermininate the 9th Hell (Nessus), when he gains his power after closing a hell gate. Plus Elminster got some from Mystral.

[defectiveillusions]

@PAPAKEVINONADOLPHIN I have seriously ceased to care about this subject, but based on gaming terms the hells and the devils there are piddly compared to fighting gods. Just a gods avatar is at least CR 40, where as a devil at maximum is going to hit CR 30. As to Mystra, well I've heard that argument at least a million times, but seeing as Raistlin has the power to kill gods should he wish, I can't say shes particularly worrisome.

[HymieItsu]

Weis and Hickman didn't like it but Lord Soth was able to go against Strahd to an extent and they were from different series. It'll never happen of course, but isn't that the fun thing about debating? Before Marvel and DC did their crossovers, it would be common fun for kids to debate Superman battling the Hulk or such.

[TenguHitori]

@TenguHitori Raistlin also has 2,5 gods helping him out... and a pet kender :D Like... WTF... of course he will win :O But still... in their own worlds, they are demigod of pure asswhoop, both of them... Raistlin, just abit more :)

[TenguHitori]

@TheBaconlaser Harry Potter is nowhere near as awesome as Raistlin or even Elminster, still I like Harry Potter, but they arnt playing in the same league.

@defectiveillusions Sometimes I thought it was hard to hear what you said because of the music... but here is how I reason... Elminster, has one god-pal, a cool beard and a history of being transexual. Sure he got some kickass spells, but Raistlin on the other hand... Raistlin's got a Dragon, an army of undead servants...

[mcgenius99]

elminster would win against raistlin if it was just eliminster vs what raistlin could have become before the timeline got changed then raistlin would have won ...a god killer beats a near god

[skuzzyknuckles]

I agree with your opinion and on top of that, Raistlin is IMO the only D&D wizard that escaped the horrible trap of being a Gandalf knock off. That being said..when is a big studio gonna realize Chronicles would be an awesome trilogy? anyways thumbs up

[neirfane]

I gotta go with raistlin while I ignore anyone talking about harry potter and twilight.

[Damnationization]

@TheBaconlaser Harry Potter and Twilight is for little girls. D&D is classic.

[kuribo1]

@TheBaconlaser Just stop, seriously stop. You must be just trolling.