David H. Lawrence XVII :: It's not an elephant, it's a herd of cats

Feedback and vigorous disagreement with John's premise, logic and conclusions in his SAG Elephant video

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• sag info
• webisode
• residual
• youtube
• network

[davidhlawrence]

I've been really clear about my motivations. I want SAG to concentrate on negotiating things they have a chance of winning, and allowing there to be time to find out just how much money there is (or isn't) in new media. I'm not looking to be right, I'm looking for SAG's members to make money. We've already lost hundreds of millions by not signing a deal with the AMPTP. Not the deal they presented, but one that would have given us increases in base, P&H and more.

[girlygirlindahood]

I sure can articulate a response - vote down any new contract that does not include new media residuals and vote for a strike authorization if it comes to that. How's that for a response, fat pig!

[davidhlawrence]

Fat pig? Really? Do you need to resort to name calling to try to get your point across? I wasn't questioning your ability to articulate in general, just that I'd love to hear your suggestion for solving the math problem as to funding residuals. As I've yet to hear that here, and you choose to hurl insults instead of constructive alternatives (and simply screaming to vote down the contract and strike is an action, not a strategy), we're done. I've been respectful. You have not.

[lunafran33]

You have entirely missed the point. No one is talking about YouTube Videos or independent home videos; the point is 1.You actually referred to "the media is all coming through a digital pipe and where do we draw that line" This contract attempts to pre-emtively draw that line because everyone (accept you - but you really do) understands that internet marketing is already a mutli-billion dollar industry, and TV and Internet ARE merging. Period. (I will continue hahaha...)

[nestor20004]

oh please. of course you are bragging. and we're supposed to just believe you about new media because you wave your resume at us? and you're the only one that understands it and the rest of us actors are just dumb kids. right. you sound more like a company than an actor. the big companies want new media money all to themselves and are pulling out the stops . that is why we are being offered a bad deal. I don't "just want to act" and "I want to act and be paid for it". radical thinking, huh

[acmecomedy]

Very well said, David. Glad to have discovered your channel.

~Trav

[easyinstructions]

Are you still working as FICORE?

[DrChebutykin]

The "...get back to work claim..." point is empty retoric, and half a lie in favor of the AMPTP.

Why? Because I worked almost everyday from August 1, 2008 thru March 13 2009, in NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, and CONNECTICUT. Yes, on the east coast.

The east coast: (where, what... 25% of SAG income is earned) I worked almost every available weekday, and I could name many SAG members who where on sets and locations with me.

"get back to work" is what the AMPTP want you to say.

[davidhlawrence]

If I wanted to go to the trouble of being litigious, I would have already done so. I invite anyone to call SAG, section 12 me and find out for yourself. I'm more than happy to leave them here as a record of your intentions and statements. I am not FiCore - I can't be any clearer than that. And those comments will remain as well. Someone has to be right, and someone has to be mistaken. I'm willing to have people find out. You're simply willing to repeat the same thing over and over.

[girlygirlindahood]

Variety is saying a deal has most likely been reached - SAG/Producers meet again Tuesday.

Remember Actors -- NO NEW MEDIA RESIDUALS - NO CONTRACT! IT IS OUR FUTURE!! THEY'VE TAKEN ENOUGH FROM US ALREADY - NOT MEETING OUR QUOTES, LESS HEALTH CARE, ETC. FIGHT FOR OUR FUTURE!

[mijauww]

I love you on heroes, you are really great actor.

[girlygirlindahood]

Did you get residuals on that Heroes webisode? If not, why not?????

This below was IN THE AGENT'S BREAKDOWNS like you are disputing:

Look at the pay -- below scale

ROAD TO THE ALTAR

Webisodes

SAG

Shoot/Start Date: April 5, 2009

Pay Rate: Starring - $400/day; Recur - $200/day; Guest $100/day

Major producer, this even beats AFTRA wages!

[ChaoticSupernova]

This is a system I don't understand at all. The way I see it, Striking=Bad, TV=Good.

[livejelly]

those who dont have healthcare or dont meet criteria to qualify for healthcare will understand. those who fought for pension would understand. the contract is not only about new media, that is one aspect, those who didnt speak up about DVDs now know what its like, that is the point, it is to speak up before something is signed and not be in fear of speaking up for fairness. its about not being fooled and being awake. its not about the easy $ of the moment its about learning thru history.