Health Insurance the public option

A vote for a public insurance option is a vote against the current distribution of wealth within society.

Not withstanding the current public options and without looking to detract from or support those options. We can see a clear difference between what is publicly funded today and the public funding of health insurance.

Health Insurance vrs Public Roads

No one is saying, or at least Im not saying, we should not pay taxes. Nor am I saying taxes are bad and the government should have zero jurisdiction outside the of military.

The Interstate Highway System was funded with 90% federal funds from the Highway Trust Fund (stocked with motorist fuel and excise taxes) and 10% state DOT funds.

Health Insurance vrs Public Education

9000 PER STUDENT
270000 for 30 students

45000 in total teacher compensation
28500 in curriculum ($950 per student)
14400 in mortgage and lease

2930 per year, per student
245 per person, per month

Health Insurance vrs U.S. Postal Service

The U.S. Postal Service "The independent government agency relies on postage and fees to fund operations. Though it has? a monopoly on delivering the mail, the USPS faces competition for services such as package delivery." answers . com/topic/united-states-postal -service.

No one is forced to pay for postal service and this service does not increase the cost of mail delivery. Health Insurance does increase the costs of Health Coverage for everyone including the uninsured, which is unjust.

Health Insurance vrs Personal Responsibility

We eating foods that are killing us quicker than our reason of strength.

Access to health care should come from wages and sustainable wages should be paid by every employer.

I am all for the government legislating a meaningful minimum wage applicable to all business owners. The governments role is to secure the right of individuals to do good. Individuals can not do good if they can not pay for the services they need.

Thats no solution thats extortion

"But exchanges are not necessarily free. Many are coerced. If a robber threatens you with, Your money or your life, your payment to him is coerced and not voluntary, and he benefits at your expense. It is robbery, not free markets, that actually follows the mercantilist model: the robber benefits at the expense of the coerced. Exploitation occurs not in the free market, but where the coercer exploits his victim." http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/FreeMarket.html

Your not driving innovation your driving profits

Don't leave the president alone in the White House. Pray for him and all those in leadership that we might live quite peaceable lives in all godliness and honesty.

SOURCES
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/FreeMarket.html
http://aleksandreia.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/lies-damn-lies-and-health-insura...
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2008-10-21-main-street_N.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/business/09insure.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INtoIkn0k28&feature=rec-HM-r2
http://patentdocs.typepad.com/patent_docs/2007/02/retinal_special.html
http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/lucentis-vs-avastin.htm
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/011747.html
http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002215.html
http://www.studentloannetwork.com/financial-aid-101/costs.php
http://www.roadstothefuture.com/Road_Funding_US.html

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[MeandProgressive]

Its situational application of the law, we pay for bogus insurance - Corporate crooks get rich, Progressive utilizes dumb caricature to sell worthless insurance policies. There is nothing funny about death and mangled bodies.  Progressive is nothing more than a Ponzi Scheme in which Corporate Executives such as Glen Renwick get rich and leave injured policy holders bogus insurance policies which are not worth the paper they are written on. See Progressive Insurance Has Treated Me as Roadkill

[soundendurance]

What you described is terrible. There really is no place in Health Care for profiteering. If there is any question in your mind regarding the thoughts of God towards situations like this, look upon Jesus Christ crucified and you will see His mind in this matter. Justice has been served when the Father poured his wrath on His Son for the injustices you have received. May you be well in the name of His Son, Jesus. May His justice serve you well in this life as it will in the life to come.

[44warjunkie]

Nanny state anyone???

[MeandProgressive]

Thank you. God bless you.

[soundendurance]

So your for exploiting the worker? Individuals can have wealth, if you hire, pay just wages. Otherwise your a shill, that one who earns in the top 10% controlling the other 90% through a false hope.

You believe in unlimited wealth. Do you also believe in the gold standard? A limited commodity. Even Hebrew slaves earned enough to sustain themselves and their families within their society.

A Pharisee is one who set himself over God's word. Show me the scriptures which support your view.

[prisonerofalliance]

I take back what I said about you being rational. You're a nut who believes in fairy tales. Christian America is stupid and brainwashed. Hell, they aren 't even really Christian in their beliefs. Jesus the man would be appalled by the likes of you using his name for such nefarious, non-Christian purposes. You ain't a true Christian, pal. He wasn't about protecting oligarchs. Worry about the real needs of the poor, you Pharisse!.

[soundendurance]

We can say yes to individuals having wages that allow them to sustain themselves individually.

That is what we should focus on, sustainable wages for every individual and health care that targets the individuals ability to pay for services individually, not collectively.

[soundendurance]

Im sure you can see as one having common sense. Allowing the govt to perpetuate health insurance only continues the ill gotten gain collected by both the govt and the industries within health care system.

We can stand for righteousness though it may cost us all we have. To stand is to say no to corruption on all levels though it may hurt us individually. We can stand for just wages, we can say no to a corrupt health insurance system.

[soundendurance]

Render just wages to individuals and you are free to profit and increase your wealth. Are there poor among you? Increase your wealth while not providing just wages and government is free to increase your taxes. Increase taxes to promote ill gotten gain and the judge of all the earth, the Lord Jesus Christ will dash you to pieces.

The issue is, both government and business alike are managed by corrupt individuals. Unless a man be born again he can not see the kingdom of God.

[soundendurance]

You do have common sense which tells us taxation alone without just wages for all perpetuates ill gotten gain. Health Insurance is a cover for such gain by taking from all to cover a few while the participants within the industry, such as big pharma and others increase their ill gotten gains.

Scripture does utilize a two pronged approach, just wages and taxation. We do not have just wages and our taxation is disproportionate to the services rendered and the wages paid to those who render them.