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@inkey2 It makes you wonder why and how such successfully run companies turning out such good products would, all-of-a-sudden make such a conscious decision to nose-dive quality.
On the GM side of things, GM's Bob Lutz has a new book, "Car Guys vs. Bean Counters: The Battle for the Soul of American Business" which explains it from his point-of-view vs. that of Roger Smith who ultimately wrecked GM.
@auaiao9 and if no AC wasn't bad enough.....I can remember thinking oh, I can just flip open the front butterfly side window and at least get some air on my face.....big mistake.....when I flipped the little window around all I did was get a searing blast of furnace like hot air against my face. Yeah, like you, the heat affects me far more as an adult. Looking back on it it was like taking an old covered wagon through the bad lands
@inkey2 Sounds like the trips your family made were "lovely" with every breath of the searing heat. I remember being hot in our cars but as a kid it didn't affect me as much then as it does now. My mom never liked a lot of heat on her so I'm sure she was miserable. Now I'm like she used to be. I don't know how we stood being in miserably hot cars with no air and the windows rolled up in a summer rain storm!
GM cars, in terms of durability were rather mediocre; their straight-eight engines could never really get more than 60,000 miles on them.
Then, in 1954, quality at GM just shot up and stayed there through 1980; then came Roger Smith.
Any mechanic would tell you that a 1979 Chevy Caprice and a 1984 were two entirely different animals; they wouldn't give you two cents for the latter and half of all Cadillac dealers folded in under 20 years.
@auaiao9 yeah, the era of no AC in cars. I can remember just dieing when our family would drive out to the mid west from massachusetts (the end of july) to visit the grand parents. I am sure we were all clinically ill from the heat. To make it worse my dad didn't want to stop for any drinks because he did not want to have to keep stopping for bathroom breaks...picture 5 people in a 55 plymouth, no AC, no radio, flat head 6 cylinder...the car could barely move
@SatchmoSings you are absolutely right on when you said Chrysler started to make junk in 1955. My dad had a 47 plymouth built like a tank.....he traded it in on a 55 plymouth and what a difference. What a flimsy piece of crap that thing was. The front seats ripped in no time. It rusted before your very eyes
@barmtrail lol, good post. I grew up with cars that had no air but I guess we were so stupid back then we didn't know the difference. I don't remember all that many cars that had it.
In "those days" Chrysler Corp. cars were indisputably the best and I say this as someone whose family only had GM cars.
Starting in 1955, Chrysler started to make junk, and, except for a brief respite (along with the Plymouth Valiant and Dodge Dart) in like 1964-67, their cars were terrible.
This DeSoto was a terrific car though I think my personal favorite Chrysler car of this era would be a 1950 Chrysler New Yorker.
@inkey2 It makes you wonder why and how such successfully run companies turning out such good products would, all-of-a-sudden make such a conscious decision to nose-dive quality.
On the GM side of things, GM's Bob Lutz has a new book, "Car Guys vs. Bean Counters: The Battle for the Soul of American Business" which explains it from his point-of-view vs. that of Roger Smith who ultimately wrecked GM.
SatchmoSings 1 week ago
@inkey2 lol, exactly. And to make matters worse everyone else's car I rode in was like my parents' car. NO AIR!
auaiao9 1 week ago
@auaiao9 and if no AC wasn't bad enough.....I can remember thinking oh, I can just flip open the front butterfly side window and at least get some air on my face.....big mistake.....when I flipped the little window around all I did was get a searing blast of furnace like hot air against my face. Yeah, like you, the heat affects me far more as an adult. Looking back on it it was like taking an old covered wagon through the bad lands
inkey2 1 week ago
@inkey2 Sounds like the trips your family made were "lovely" with every breath of the searing heat. I remember being hot in our cars but as a kid it didn't affect me as much then as it does now. My mom never liked a lot of heat on her so I'm sure she was miserable. Now I'm like she used to be. I don't know how we stood being in miserably hot cars with no air and the windows rolled up in a summer rain storm!
auaiao9 1 week ago
@inkey2 Hey, the same thing happened at GM.
GM cars, in terms of durability were rather mediocre; their straight-eight engines could never really get more than 60,000 miles on them.
Then, in 1954, quality at GM just shot up and stayed there through 1980; then came Roger Smith.
Any mechanic would tell you that a 1979 Chevy Caprice and a 1984 were two entirely different animals; they wouldn't give you two cents for the latter and half of all Cadillac dealers folded in under 20 years.
SatchmoSings 1 week ago
@auaiao9 see my post about no AC in cars back in the old days
inkey2 1 week ago
@auaiao9 yeah, the era of no AC in cars. I can remember just dieing when our family would drive out to the mid west from massachusetts (the end of july) to visit the grand parents. I am sure we were all clinically ill from the heat. To make it worse my dad didn't want to stop for any drinks because he did not want to have to keep stopping for bathroom breaks...picture 5 people in a 55 plymouth, no AC, no radio, flat head 6 cylinder...the car could barely move
inkey2 1 week ago
@SatchmoSings you are absolutely right on when you said Chrysler started to make junk in 1955. My dad had a 47 plymouth built like a tank.....he traded it in on a 55 plymouth and what a difference. What a flimsy piece of crap that thing was. The front seats ripped in no time. It rusted before your very eyes
inkey2 1 week ago
@barmtrail lol, good post. I grew up with cars that had no air but I guess we were so stupid back then we didn't know the difference. I don't remember all that many cars that had it.
auaiao9 5 months ago
In "those days" Chrysler Corp. cars were indisputably the best and I say this as someone whose family only had GM cars.
Starting in 1955, Chrysler started to make junk, and, except for a brief respite (along with the Plymouth Valiant and Dodge Dart) in like 1964-67, their cars were terrible.
This DeSoto was a terrific car though I think my personal favorite Chrysler car of this era would be a 1950 Chrysler New Yorker.
SatchmoSings 7 months ago