DEBATE: Luke 1:15, Did John the Baptist Make a "Free Will" Decision for Christ in the Womb?

Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers/Christian Debater (YouTube channel: CANSWERSTV, websites: BIBLEQUERY.ORG, HISTORYCART.COM & MUSLIMHOPE.COM) debates Steve McCalip, author & producer of "KingJamesVideoMan," on the subject of WHO did Jesus die for. Bob L. Ross, leading publisher of Charles Haddon Spurgeon (please check official website: PILGRIMPUBLICATIONS.COM), is the moderator. Educational backgrounds of debaters: Wessels- Bachelor of Science in Advertising from the University of Texas at Austin, completed extension course taught by Dr. J.I. Packer of Regent College, Vancouver, Canada, studied virtually every book or tape produced by Walter Martin of the Christian Research Institute & Dr. R.C. Sproul of Ligonier Ministries, worked with Pilgrim Publications (C.H. Spurgeon) since 1990, attended Dayspring Fellowship of Austin, Texas (Pastor Jackson Boyett, www.dayspringchapel.org) since 1982. McCalip- Bachelor's degree from Baylor University, 2 Master's Degrees in Education from the University of Houston. Theological background: Wessels- Classical Protestant Reformed Doctine, Affirms the Trinity (Father , Son & Holy Spirit), McCalip- Arminian Doctrine, Denial of the Trinity, Affirms King James Bible only. A popular book out is entitled "History's Greatest Lies;" although this book doesn't mention the following it should have: Darwin's Evolution Theory, Global Warming, Muhammad was a prophet of God, the only true "church" is headed by a Roman Pope, etc. Another "greatest lie" would be to say Jesus died for people He did not indeed die for. There are only 3 possibilities: 1. Christ died to save all men therefore all are saved 2. Christ died to save no one in particular (men then must save themselves) or 3. Christ died to save a certain number (who God then actively saves) from eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire. This debate has been going on for centuries & in recent times has had more notoriety because of a book written by Dave Hunt of "The Berean Call" entitled, "What Love Is This?," which makes many of the same emotional Arminian arguments as Steve McCalip in this debate. Multnomah Publishers also produced a book entitled "Debating Calvinism" between Hunt & James R. White of Alpha & Omega Ministries. Ergun Caner of Islam fame has also taken issue with "The Five Points of Calvinism," namely: 1. Total Depravity, 2. Unconditional Election, 3. Limited Atonement, 4. Irresistible Grace, & 5. Perseverance of the Saints. The real question, ""Is God sovereign over man or is man's free will sovereign over God & His purposes?" Who is REALLY in control?

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[fudgedogbannana]

Jesus died to defeat sin, sure its for us, Sin ruled over man since Adam, with the death of Jesus sin need no longer rule over us, any of us however, you(we) are not saved automatically because Jesus died to defeat sin, you (we)sin voluntarily on a daily basis slapping Jesus in the face every time and will pay in the end. Jesus nullified a previous contract that Satan had with God concerning the souls of man, when Satan accepted delivery of an innocent man the contract was terminated.

[CAnswersTV]

@fudgedogbannana Our Savior Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God (the God-man, John 1;1,14), was graciously sent to suffer & die on the cross for our sins & to purify us from all unrighteousness (Isaiah 53, Matthew, Mark, Luke , & John) by the sacrifice of His body & blood. Those that are predestined by God unto salvation (Ephesians 1:1-11, Romans 9:10-23) will reign with Christ while Satan & the reprobate (Romans 1:18 ff, Revelation 12, etc) will perish in hell (Matt 25:41, 2 Peter 2:4).

[TheChazomac]

So to the first guy, if we tell a group of people that Christ died for their sins, we lie because not all of them are going to be saved but they may take what you said and say to themselves, Christ died for my sins? ok so im good to go, and now i can go on and live my life however i want and be justified on the day of judgement

[CAnswersTV]

@TheChazomac Very good logical conclusion! Arminians preach a heretical gospel that tells sinners that "God loves them & has a wonderful plan for their life" which is not true Biblically speaking. A sinner who has not been supernaturally "born again" (John 3:3-8) by the power of the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5-7) will easily fall into the scenario you described & thus deceive himself about his own salvation before a Holy God. The Bible DOES NOT say God loves everybody (Romans 9:13, 22; Psalm 11:5).

[anthonybaiz]

If God only selects who he wants to receive the spirit, then why should we bother? I'll just wait on his timeing. His ways aren't ours, right? OH WAIT! We have to Go to Jesus on our own will. We're so focus on the theology that we forget the mission.

[CAnswersTV]

@anthonybaiz We bother because Jesus commanded His followers to "Go ye therefore, & teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, & of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you ..." (Matt. 28:19-20). See show #1 of our "Unpopular Bible Doctrines" series on YAHOO VIDEO (type LARRY WESSELS in their homepage search box & look for it) which shows you Biblically that the Father picks who He wants (John 6), you don't pick Jesus, get it?

[CBALLEN]

If Christ died for every man's sins and took the wrath of God for every man's sins,then there would be no more wrath left for God to pour out on the wicked,but God has plenty of wrath left to pour out on the wicked,so logically,Jesus never died for all men  or their sins.

[CAnswersTV]

@msd1835 You're welcome to your views & opinions concerning this10 minute clip of a 4 hour debate. You're right though, Larry Wessels has no respect for the Arminian view (see his video on Youtube, "UNPOPULAR BIBLE DOCTRINES #1: THE BIBLICAL GOD NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW"). At the time of this response we are currently uploading onto Youtube the full length versions of this debate. This debate was done in 4 one hour segments. Right now we have parts 3 & 4 up (see our Youtube CANSWERSTV channel page).

[TheChazomac]

@CAnswersTV amen

[CAnswersTV]

@polopowers1 I found that you commented on my last reply within only a few short minutes (I think within 5-7 minutes) meaning there is no way you had time to check all the scripture references I gave you. This tells me that that you aren't interested in searching the scriptures for answers but rather you have a "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up" attitude. You're equivocating on "indwelt" (continual presence) & "filled" (temporary power).