The Real Star Of Bethlehem Part (1-7)

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[enlightenment2u]

To all persons of scientifically enlightened, please answer my question.

Were there astronomers at the time, these people who wrote the bible who would have had the knowledge to describe all the constellations and movement of stars as per in the book of revelation?

[AlGendii]

@enlightenment2u greetings, you are exactly right witch bring us to the important question from where they got this knowledge from God? or from diffrent source? like dajjal or satan or devil you name it whatever you need

[courag1]

I usually never order videos over the internet but your video spoke to me. Tonight my sons and daughter-in-law watched the video and my daughter-in-law, gave her heart to Jesus. Thank you for setting the stage, that this prayer would happen this evening. Bless you.

[courag1]

@JayMolnar1 He who winneth souls is wise.

[ambrosius]

@enlightenment2u not just constellations, names of constellations. There was indeed knowledge of constellations and star patterns way before the Magi even existed.

[ambrosius]

@enlightenment2u31 “Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades? Can you loosen Orion’s belt? Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs? Do you know the laws of the heavens? Can you set up God’s dominion over the earth?" - Job 38:31-33 - By most historical accounts, Job is dated between the 6th and 4th centuries BC, written before the book of Genesis. This makes it the earliest book to be written in the Bible, in it are names of constellations.

[n2motocross]

@enlightenment2u Yes, The Magi or 'Wise Men from the East' were astronomers. Many Arabian astromers lived in this era as well.

[tylerfh2012]

@Eirikofs you're right, they had no idea whatsoever WHY the heavenly bodies moved as they did or what they actually were, but they were quite knowledgeable about WHERE they moved. all they had to do was watch, record, and notice patterns, and people had been doing that for hundreds if not thousands of years before this time.

[Eirikofs]

@tylerfh2012 I can see why you object, but there is no denying that a lot of their fundamental understandings of the movements of the stars were wrong. The geometric model they worked with drastically restricted their potential astronomical knowledge. If you mean that the average person back then knew more about what they THEN thought to be true, you might be right, but most of their ideas and models were still incorrect.

[timeWaster76]

goof ball, worthless



[tylerfh2012]

@Eirikofs You're absolutely wrong when you say that they knew nothing about the movement of the stars and planets. That was the one thing they COULD observe and record (and eventually predict)! A huge number of ancient structures align with astronomical events such as solstices and equinoxes. I'd be willing to bet that the average person back then knew a heck of a lot more about the night sky than the average person today. Besides campfire stories, it was their only entertainment.

[tylerfh2012]

@MrLycanthropy Sadly, yes, religion does contain unintelligent people. but so does atheism, and every other worldview on the planet

[tylerfh2012]

@MrLycanthropy Did you watch the whole presentation, all 7 videos? Could you please explain to me why it is empty pointless mythology? I am not being sarcastic or anything (it's hard to convey tone through text like this); I am really interested in hearing which parts you disagree with. I try to keep an open mind and would like to hear an opinion "from the other side." If the 500 character limit is too restrictive, you can email me, just let me know :)

[tylerfh2012]

@tegf4 I was curious about that too. My free download astronomy software accounts for this, so I'm sure that his fancy one did as well