@kiwichristian2009 The "Lady of all Nations" is a devotion that started from supposed apparitions in the Netherlands, the "Palmarian Catholic Church" is a cult with its (now deceased) leader claiming to be the true "pope", the "Philippine Independent Church" was established by rebel priests, masons and labor leaders in rebellion against the Pope's authority. THE LAST TWO ARE NOT CATHOLIC. They seem to be outwardly, but are nonetheless are like you protestants, SAME BREED OF REBELS AND IDIOTS.
@johnthreesixteen316 "1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given" And what if Christ was actually nailed with four nails? "Five-given"? Is that pathetic sentimentalist foolishness what they teach you at "Bible" school? Oh please!
@kiwichristian2009 That's because the Church was ONE, in faith, in doctrine, in leadership. They were under the Deacons and Priests who answered to the Bishop, the Bishop answered to the Apostles, and the Apostles were led by Simon Peter. Not some fragmented group of people under the delusion that they could be separate politically and still claim to be the same entity, as protestantism is. You and your beliefs about the Christ's Church are self-contradictory, silly and PATHETIC.
@kiwichristian2009 "The churches were local assemblies of believers, not the international hierarchy that we see today in the catholic organisation." If they were mere local "assemblies", why would the Apostles stand as a council to discuss the obligations of ALL gentile converts? Why write a letter of instruction, a CIRCULAR to the ENTIRE Church for its OBEDIENCE afterwards? Why would they write to the Churches to INSTRUCT and COMMAND them, despite the fact that they had local leaders?
@kiwichristian2009 "I may not be your friend, but that does not negate the fact that you are mine." I have no friends among the children of satan, sorry.
@kiwichristian2009 "all these are MAN MADE traditions ADDED ON." So here we fall, finally: IS THE DOCTRINE OF SOLA SCRIPTURA BIBLICAL? Hope to see your PROOFS soon.
@kiwichristian2009 "The catholic organisation has a LONG history of torturing and murdering people that disagreed with it." Examples, please. I love where this is heading...
@kiwichristian2009 "Popes making statements and rules" Well duh, that's the role of the leader of the Church, of ALL leaders of the Church. What organization would survive without rules? "Hey what time do we go to Sunday service?" "Oh I don't know, we don't make rules, don't we?" Isn't your prerequisite of "accepting Jesus as personal lord and savior" before you consider someone a "Christian" a RULE? That's the most stupid statement I've read so far! LMAO!
Wonder where those two idiots are? Just when I was enjoying this discussion...
drupes 8 months ago
@kiwichristian2009 The "Lady of all Nations" is a devotion that started from supposed apparitions in the Netherlands, the "Palmarian Catholic Church" is a cult with its (now deceased) leader claiming to be the true "pope", the "Philippine Independent Church" was established by rebel priests, masons and labor leaders in rebellion against the Pope's authority. THE LAST TWO ARE NOT CATHOLIC. They seem to be outwardly, but are nonetheless are like you protestants, SAME BREED OF REBELS AND IDIOTS.
drupes 8 months ago
@johnthreesixteen316 "1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given" And what if Christ was actually nailed with four nails? "Five-given"? Is that pathetic sentimentalist foolishness what they teach you at "Bible" school? Oh please!
drupes 8 months ago
@kiwichristian2009 That's because the Church was ONE, in faith, in doctrine, in leadership. They were under the Deacons and Priests who answered to the Bishop, the Bishop answered to the Apostles, and the Apostles were led by Simon Peter. Not some fragmented group of people under the delusion that they could be separate politically and still claim to be the same entity, as protestantism is. You and your beliefs about the Christ's Church are self-contradictory, silly and PATHETIC.
drupes 8 months ago
@kiwichristian2009 "The churches were local assemblies of believers, not the international hierarchy that we see today in the catholic organisation." If they were mere local "assemblies", why would the Apostles stand as a council to discuss the obligations of ALL gentile converts? Why write a letter of instruction, a CIRCULAR to the ENTIRE Church for its OBEDIENCE afterwards? Why would they write to the Churches to INSTRUCT and COMMAND them, despite the fact that they had local leaders?
drupes 8 months ago
@kiwichristian2009 "I may not be your friend, but that does not negate the fact that you are mine." I have no friends among the children of satan, sorry.
drupes 8 months ago
@kiwichristian2009 "all these are MAN MADE traditions ADDED ON." So here we fall, finally: IS THE DOCTRINE OF SOLA SCRIPTURA BIBLICAL? Hope to see your PROOFS soon.
drupes 8 months ago
@kiwichristian2009 "The catholic organisation has a LONG history of torturing and murdering people that disagreed with it." Examples, please. I love where this is heading...
drupes 8 months ago
@kiwichristian2009 "and other popes overturning them" Care to give me an example?
drupes 8 months ago
@kiwichristian2009 "Popes making statements and rules" Well duh, that's the role of the leader of the Church, of ALL leaders of the Church. What organization would survive without rules? "Hey what time do we go to Sunday service?" "Oh I don't know, we don't make rules, don't we?" Isn't your prerequisite of "accepting Jesus as personal lord and savior" before you consider someone a "Christian" a RULE? That's the most stupid statement I've read so far! LMAO!
drupes 8 months ago