Re: Abortionists might as well slit their babies' throats

Response to NightVisionPhantom's video "Abortionists might as well slit their babies' throats," which may be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwGqMQlhMlo&feature=channel_page

Let me know what you think.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• abortion
• morality
• suffering
• christ
• atheist
• atheism

[CMFordonFordain]

o yeah, just trying to make one point; being put on this earth without you wanting isn't sufficient reason to assume god doesn't exist.

[steam116]

You are attacking a Straw Man here, that is not my argument. I was using the model that NVP created (punishing an innocent that didn't even ask to be created) to show that his position was inconsistent because he believes in a God that does the same thing on a daily basis by judging millions to be worthy of Hell. The inconsistency is that NVP considers this act to be the pinnacle of justice.

[NightVisionPhantom]

Which to be honest, doesn't have anything to do with the abortion topic. But anyways, I will not talk about the slavery or rape thing, since this is not our topic. The topic is basically whether or not abortion is justifiable under any circumstance, which I believe is not, and you clearly do believe based on a variety of other circumstances. What I meant by how you might as well slit your baby's throat is saying that if you believe in late-term/partial birth abortion, then just do it urself

[steam116]

I'm not sure if I agree with you here. I certainly agree that late-term and partial-birth abortion is wrong, but I'm wondering if slitting a baby's throat is worse than partial birth abortion. It's a tough call, but I am also against late term abortion. I think it is very unreasonable, however, to not offer any kind of outlet for the woman who is pregnant as a result of the rape, whose pregnancy endlessly adds to her shame and humiliation, and reminds her constantly of that brutal encounter.

[NightVisionPhantom]

First off, I noticed you clearly going into fallacious statements in order to try to taint my position rather than defend yours. For example, you saying "well if you read the bible, then you MUST condone slavery and rape", which is to SOMEHOW lift the burden of justification from you and place it on me.

[steam116]

"well if you read the bible, then you MUST condone slavery and rape" I never said that, what I said is that I would call into question the Bible's legitimacy as a moral source because the Bible condones slavery and rape. I'm not suggesting that you advocate slavery and rape, I am suggesting the the Bible is probably not really your moral foundation.

[damaxman]

Hundreds, if not thousands of people are killed on a daily basis around the world as a result of war and political agendas. Who gives a shit about fetuses?

Lets face it, if a woman really doesnt want the kid, there are ways she can prevent it reguardless. It's alot safer in every way for her to use a medical facility.

Now, how do we proceed with world peace?

[CMFordonFordain]

(i know you are an atheist, but just pretend ur not for now)

your right, it isn't our choice to be born, put on this earth etc, however, that's the main point, it isn't our choice but god's, you didn't exist along with god, god existed before you and made you and therefore owns you, but as you can see, you have freedom of choice given by god and not a blind creation of his in which you are a slave without the knowledge that you are.

[piratedebo]

Oh! Im retarded, my b!

[steam116]

It should be between the video and the rating, but I will put it in the description, no problem

[piratedebo]

Please post links of videos you're debating.. Thanks.