Go Seigen vs Iwamoto Kaoru
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Interesting opinion. And yet, the black player, one of the greatest geniuses of this game ever, and almost certainly the greatest player of the 20th century, was able to win by only 1 point as black, and this at a time where games were played with NO komi... besides, white is a strong pro as well. I disagree, white played very interestingly and well
4 years ago 7
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cool! ah.. will repeat hikaru some day
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hikaru no go music?
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I stopped the video when the music became loud, sorry
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One other remark: White (Chiyotaro) wins by 1 point in the actual game, not black.
Go Seigen had a record of 14 wins and 7 losses against Chiyotaro. Quite impressive for Chiyo.
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@curly1ner Actually, The one who showed the world that 4-4s can be regularly played WAS Go Seigen back then. By the middle of the 20th century, already plenty of other pros were playing it too. Of course, it only reached peak popularity in modern times, but it started being played regularly even back then. And Go Seigen himself employed it even then very often.
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@lance1236451 No. That's even games nowadays. But komi didn't even exist in Go rules back then. That is, the first serious experiments with it started in the first half of the 20th century (1930s). Even games then meant no komi at all, and even when they started experimenting with it, it was around 2 points in the beginning.
In the 1940s it reached a value of around 4.5. But this the game in this video is from 1929 as it appears on the databases I have. So komi was most probably 0
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@grolich isnt komi 6.5 even
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@hikaruUSA No it wasn't! The 4-4 opening didn't become popular until fairly recently in the history of Go!
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What program is this game played on??
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awesome match
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Volume control? Lol
hikaruUSA 2 years ago 4
can you get the match video between Hoshino Masaki, and Tsurumaru Keiichi?
Omaplata41 3 years ago
I can sure try to =D
hikaruUSA 3 years ago
That would be awesome if you could!!
Omaplata41 3 years ago
I wasn't able to find an sgf... =( any others though... Or if you get the sgf that would work =D
hikaruUSA 3 years ago