Penn & Teller, AA and spiritualism
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That rock bounced pretty nicely... There is no rock?
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@therealmcnulty Rational Recovery is much, much better than that fucking propaganda (AA) AA is terrible for you. Sorry, but you are in denial.
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@LordBoofhead1 First of all, you show your ignorance about AA by calling it a Christian program. It is not a Christian program, never has been. In fact, I challenge you to produce even on reference to Christianity in any of the AA Literature. Secondly, many psychologists recommend their patients go to AA. So according to you all of these doctors are quacks who should be sued for malpractice?
STFU about things you know nothing about, dummy.
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The answer is actual treatment by real psychologists, AA is Fucking magic and voodoo. The thing is its Christian Hoodoo so we all accept it...
If you watch the whole episode or say actually know anything about the science of addiction, you'd know that Alcoholism isn't an addiction but a symptom of deeper problems...
AA is a christian scam to brainwash folks and control the lives of the rest of us...
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Always run perpendicular to the velocity vector of the moving object!
Whether it be train, car, falling tree or rolling rock
Trust me, it's a solid tactic
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honestly, what the fuck do these two jerkoffs care about AA? If you don't need it, why do you care about it?
On top of that, they can tear down AA, but what is there solution for people in the grips of alcoholism or drug addiction? fucking magic?!
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@katoe9871 The people interviewed for this Penn and Teller spot are AA's who have not really studied the literature but have gotten bad ideas from meetings. There are many meetings of AA where there are strong personalities who have not bothered to study the literature. They promote bad ideas like God or Higher Power can be a rock or door knob. No rock, door knob or other inanimate object got me sober using the program of AA. Meetings are NOT the program of AA. They are just meetings of people.
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@dewalker Hi, it is unfortunate that in the fellowship of AA (meetings) that people actually promote things that are NOT the program of AA. The 12 steps are always optional, but if you want to get sober with the program of AA the 12 steps are mandatory. No where in the AA book does it say that God can be a rock / door knob. These are bad ideas spread in the fellowship meetings by other AA's trying to look good or be an "authority". It is plain wrong. AA says God/HP is found within oneself.
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Oh my God, a giant rock!
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How a rock or a tree in the front yard can 'work' to treat addiction is beyond me...
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P&T are really ignorant on this particular subject. I'm an atheist, and an alcoholic who turned his life around with the help of AA. The god part is just a small piece, and I typically just ignore it. It's more about finding people who have had similar experiences with addiction, figuring out you're not alone, or unique. Figuring out that you're basically a self-centered child who seeks attention through your addictive actions. full of anger and resentment and learning to fix it.
therealmcnulty 1 year ago
@therealmcnulty Got that right. They actually have a disclaimer in the beginning of this episode that they don't know shit about addiction. However, the point made in the episode is still valid: governments have no business in forcing people into religious (or quasi-religious) organizations. No matter what the end, it doesn't justify the unconstitutional means. And this clip, well, it's just plain funny.
rintakumpu 1 year ago 12
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Penn is a very unhappy man. he admits this freely. he could use a higher power.
godforge2003 2 years ago
What? Does he? I've been watching his video blog (Penn Says) for over a year now and he seems everything but unhappy!
rintakumpu 2 years ago 3