The False Gospel of John Piper

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http://testallthings.com/?s=john+piper

http://www.trinityfoundation.org/journal.php?id=113

http://testallthings.com/2009/05/20/john-pipers-heretical-view-of-the-atonement/

Christ died for all sinners, so that IF you will repent and believe in Christ, then the death of Jesus will become effective in your case and will take away your sins. Died for you, means if you believe, the death of Jesus will cover your sins. Now, as far as it goes, this is biblical teaching.
(John Piper - "Taste and See" (Multnomah,1999), page 325),

http://testallthings.com/2009/05/20/john-piper-agrees-with-the-arminian-view-...

John Piper said:
"So Piper, just be simple a minute, do you believe Jesus died for all people? just give us a straight out answer. And I'm not going to play politics, I'm not going to answer another question. I'm going to do this.
Before I answer it, i'm gunna force you to define for all people, i'm going to say, 'now just tell me exactly what you mean and i'll answer you' because I dont want to answer in a way that would cause you to misunderstand. What do you mean by for all people?
Now I think I know what most, is it okay if I use the word arminians? just, just most people who, who are having a hard time, they're not all arminians, having a hard time with limited atonement. That is the atonement that effects something special for a limited group.

I think I know what they all mean, and i'm going to quote Miller's Erikson's theology because I think he's right. He says:

"God intended the atonement to make salvation possible for all persons. christ died for all persons but this atoning death becomes effective only when accepted by the individual. This is the view of all arminians." closed quote.

If that's the view of all arminians I totally agree with it. No qualifications. So if you say "did christ die for all people" and I say "what do you mean for all people?" and you answer "I mean did he die in such a way so that anybody anywhere who believes will be saved by that blood."
I say "absolutely he did." That's John 3:16 pure and simple. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son in such a way that whoever believes will not perish, I believe that totally without qualification. Every individual person on planet earth who believes in Jesus has their life covered by the blood of Jesus. so you preach that, you stand up on sunday morning and you say christ died in such a way so that anybody in this room who believes, your sins are covered by the blood of Jesus.
(John Piper - Acts 29 conference - The Whole Glory of God - Imputation - Impartation of His righteousness - Part 2)

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http://testallthings.com/2010/12/28/john-pipers-heretical-view-of-creation/

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[Testallthings]

All cults, sects, denominations, and religious promoters have this in common — they believe there is a sense in which God loves all men and Christ died for the sins of all men.

If Christ died for all the sins of all men, then all men will be saved.

If Christ died for some of the sins of all men, no one will be saved.

However, if Christ died (as the Scripture teaches) for all the sins of His elect, then His elect will be saved.

[Testallthings]

To deny effectual and particular redemption is to deny the very sum and substance of the Gospel - SUBSTITUTION.

I am not surprised when certain preachers decide they will no longer preach particular redemption, for it is without question the most hated truth in Scripture.

Universal love and universal atonement are universally accepted by all of Adam’s sons except those who, by the grace of God, have seen the Lord Jesus Christ as Isaiah saw His glory and spoke of Him.

[Testallthings]

The LORD Jesus met ALL of the conditions for the salvation of His elect. Faith is not a CONDITION that the elect must meet in order to be saved, it is a gift of God. A person with faith believes that Jesus met ALL of the conditions for their salvation and thus John Piper doesn't have faith because he does NOT believe that Jesus met ALL of the conditions for salvation. Piper believes that man must meet certain conditions in order to become saved and this is why he teaches universal atonement.

[ptporras]

are you really saying that John Piper is lost? Like lost lost? Like 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 lost?

and are you sayin that any Arminian is 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 lost?

[Testallthings]

@ptporras Yes. Galatians 1 verses 8 and 9

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Regarding arminians, they do not believe the gospel.

[HamtramckGrace]

All those who believe other than the gospel in scripture are unregenerate, period.

[323triton]

@Testallthings u called it before his fellowship and approval of Rick Warren and his false teaching which is what it took to for me to see clearly. I believe we are in the perilous times Paul spoke of. These types of false teachers are by far the most dangerous as they are not gimmicky in nature but both passionate and scholarly in doctrine.

[RBNightlinger]

@Testallthings Amen! I was raised Catholic, was encouraged by my mother to dabble in the occult, later became an agnostic, then an Arminian charismatic, then a Pentecostal, and finally an unregenerate Calvinist for ten years before God, in His long suffering and mercy, finally drew me to His Son. Jesus saves His elect, no matter how egregiously we've sinned or how long we've resisted Him.

[RBNightlinger]

Thank you for this video. As a new convert, I'm not familiar with Mr. Piper, but I do know my Lord Jesus is sufficient in all things, and I recognized Piper's words as heresy. I'll not be watching any more of his vids. Thanks again.

[EVERY0NEhasAStory]

It is FINISHED!! Piper speaks with condemnation in his "preaching" he is not qualified to do so. Jesus IS, and he says "Go, nor I condemn you." I don't understand how this guy is behind a pulpit.

[polopowers1]

Excellent , excellent video, I've been saying this for years about Piper un heeded.He once said to his congregation you step on the glory of God everyday, you mar His glory by your life and sin.! God's glory has never been marred and never stepped on it is never subjective.Christ is not vindicated by works either before or after the cross.Christ satisfied God exclusively and perfectly .Thank you your voice is needed.