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[Koryvantes]

It is also documented in paintings that other, not well known weapons, were used for special purposes by Ancient Greeks. For example marine Hoplites onboard used a very heavy sword capable of cutting ropes and smashing wood obstacles (and enemies)

[Koryvantes]

Regarding falx, Romfea in Greek language, is first mentioned in Homer's Iliad. Is also mentioned in Xenofon Anabasis. But no artifacts or painting representations exist in classical years. Romfea didnot fit in falanx battle, was rather used by auxilliary light units like peltasts or ekdromi in open spaces.

[Koryvantes]

The most ancient kopis-like weapon can be seen in Mycaenen Museum, dated at 1500 bc, but is used in battle during Persian wars, and specifically after the Marathon battle.

Kopis is actually a butcher's tool, adopted in falanx battle. An explanation for its succesful use against Persians is they did not use metalic helmets, they rather used linen helmets. Kopis is the perfect weapon to hit the unprotected head of an opponent behind a big shield

[009Alexander]

were did you guys get all of the equipment?

[Koryvantes]

@009Alexander greek and mostly foreign suppliers. Some of our armour is made by us.

[dionisosb]

εξαιρετικο το βιντεο...θα ηθελα να παρακολουθησω απο κοντα ενα αρχαιοπρεπες αγημα,αν μπορειτε να μας ενημερωνετε για τις εκδηλωσεις του συλλογου θα ηταν καλο.

[armaetemporis]

I really like that! I one am impassioned of ancient Greece.

I practise a little bit the pugila, if you want it I can send a video?!

Thank you!

[dionisosb]

@SpartanOfAmerica1234ευχαριστω φιλε , χαιρετισμους στην Νεα Υορκη απο την Αθηνα

[SpartanOfAmerica1234]

@dionisosb Καλή λόγια, χαιρετισμοί από τη Νέα Υόρκη.

[notgodsemigod]

@Thrashgu So it seems that Greeks appreciated the Kopis design through their wars against Persians - could it be an adoption by some part of the Persian army? Or a design inspired by those wars? In anyway we have also to consider that similar problems lead to similar solutions more often than not so really the Spanish falceta could be simply a parallel development. In anyway Greeks and Spanish fought together or against on too few occasions to have had substantial exchange of weaponry.

[notgodsemigod]

@Thrashgu Actually I apologise for rushing to speak with certainty. I come back after some more research in this topic my attention had never fallen till now (and thanks for initiative). In reality the Spanish ancestry of the Kopis-Falcata design is only ONE of the competing theories. The most ancient Iberian specimen dates around 4th century but there is a famous ancient depiction of a Greek kopis dating even prior to the Persian invasion - showing a Greek attacking a Persian.

[Thrashgu]

@notgodsemigod Are you sure? i thought that style of sword was made in Asia or Africa first, but i am not an expert. Iberians used it too (The Falcata), as Celtiberians, the people of the north (Celtic tribes) used antennas sword, the sword that roman adopted as Gladius Hispaniensis.

[notgodsemigod]

... however, as far as my knowledge reaches, the falx was a sword used by Dacians who lived north of Danube. Philip II had reached the danube but his contacts or clashes with Dacians would be limited - and I ignore any mention of the falx. The falx is mentioned by Romans during the Trajan's campaign in early 2nd A.D. century.

So, unless I do miss information, I do not see how the falx is related to ancient Greek warfare - unless the group re-enactment scope is greater than the 500-300 B.C. era.

[notgodsemigod]

@notgodsemigod .. there is one guy who wears the Macedonian (wrongly called "Thraecian type" - since in reality this is the real Mycenaean helmet, i.e. the most ancient all time classic Hellenic helmet from 2nd and 1st millenia B.C.). He holds a typical Greek round shield (no greaves, quite common among all Greek armies), normal size spear and of course the helmet that in 4th century was worn typically by the Macedonian hoplites. But then the same guy I think, is shown holding a falx...