Good welder vs. Cheap welder

http://lectricgenius.blogspot.com/ Just a little helpful explanation on how to tell a good welder apart from a cheap welder.

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Autos & Vehicles

Tags:

• Miller
• 250
• twin
• arc
• welder
• Hobart
• Stickmate
• stick
• good
• cheap
• american
• made
• versus
• chinese
• yt:crop=16:9

[thewelderdude]

oh, and as for striking the arc, are you comparing the miller to the hobart on the ac setting or on the dc setting since the hobart is ac only?

[lectricgenius]

@thewelderdude I tried it both ways, I am an electrical engineer after all, the miller is just far superior to the hobart. It weighs tons more, it is a far better welder than that hobart piece of crap. I actually paid far less for the miller than i did for the hobart, but again there is no comparison between the two

[whackitov]

oil cooled welders have a better duty cycle than both those machines

[lectricgenius]

@whackitov of course they do, juz like a water cooled pc can run faster than a non-water cooled 1 does dude. And I am well aware of this fact cuz I am an ibew journeyman as well as an electrical engineer. The purpose of this video was 2 simply show every1 wut the difference in a new cheap one and an old good one culd do.

[mdinc20]

i learned how to weld on that same miller welder in high school of 07- 09

[lectricgenius]

@mdinc20 It is a great welder, especially for someone trying to learn how to weld. My buddy just last nite used it to weld up something which was very very thin but it did a great job for that as well.

[toddyboy26]

Hobart/Miller same welders same company Just FYI

[lectricgenius]

@breezebro Yes, now if you really want to help it out, you could make a liquid cooler for it, and potentially get a 100% duty cycle out of it.

[thecatsupdog]

The old one probably has a better ground clamp. Duty cycle is not the end all be all.

[beast6228]

The Stickmate LX which he shows in this video can weld at 100% duty cycle at 100 amps, Of course a bigger welder with a larger transformer will have a higher duty cycle.

[1Rectified]

@toddyboy26 Yep I open the Hobart 165i and the circuit card or mother board (?)  has a miller decal.

[nekbiodieselworks]

Hey I have that same Hobart welder, It was gift from my wife and I love it, I'm only a backyard welder so I have never needed a monster welder like that miller. but I have done some amazing things with my hobart.

[dougspair]

@thewelderdude Yes..this comparison is meaningless....I have a P&H 400/400 AC/DC TIG/Stick machine...made in 1956...still works as good as the newest stuff...heavy though..must weight 800-900 pounds...self-contained water tank/cooler..8" wheels...room on back for Two 330 CF cylinders...output for Two watercooled TIG torches...a 225 amp and a 400...

[dougspair]

...Well...this is really not a good comparison...you want to weld high current all the time...buy a bigger welder...besides...pretty hard to get more than 30-40% arc time with stick anyway... Hobart, Miller, Lincoln...Esab...all are good...just stay away from the China...and Harbor Fright...

[thewelderdude]

@lectricgenius I'll defently agree that the miller is better than the hobart in this case and would love to have that beast of a miller in my garage.

[thewelderdude]

Just how much does that miller two fifty twin weigh compared to the stickmate? also, i doubt that you could buy a brand new miller tow fifty for the price of a brand new stickmate.

the video should be labeled expensive welder vs cheaper welder.