@Dhulfeqar Allaah forbids you from it [slandering Aisha r.a] and warns you not to repeat the like of it forever, if you are believers.” [al-Noor 24:17]’”“The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves, and his wives are their mothers.” (Quran, 33:6)
@Muslimstruggler Those latest rebels are called Khawarij. So, they can not cause Mu`awiyyah's rebellion as they were not existent at time when Mu`awiyyah begin his rebellion.
Decide yourself should you write RA after name of Mu`awiyyah or not.
@Muslimstruggler You wrote after name of Mu`awiyyah Radwan allahu `alayh? Why?
Battle between `Ali and Mu`awiyyah happened later. First `A'isha rebel against `Ali. iShe caused battle of Camel. 10 000 muslims perished. Than rebel Mu`awiyyah and `Amr ibn al-`As. They challenged `Ali, but `Ali broke them and as they saw their defeat, called for negotiations.
`Ali, seeking not to more shed muslim blood, and agreed on negotiations, and part of `Ali's warriors, upon seeing this, rebel.
The great FITNA which occured between Muawiyah (ra) and Ali (ra) was something the prophet warned about in his life time. It's mentioned in the Sunni Hadith. Both part had ishtihad but most Sunnis side with Ali (ra) but humans do mistakes. The fighting between them was a fitan which were caused by the khawarij made them fight.
@Muslimstruggler I do not hate Umar but I dislike him and have negative view of him. I do not dislike Uthman ibn Affan for example, because he caused no big evil.
What if you will say if I will bring proof from sunni sahih books about Umar striking Fatima Zahra?
No that's a lie. Omar (ra) never touched Fatima Zahra (ra). He loved Ahlul Bayt and why do you hate Omar (ra) when he is promised paradise in the Quran surah 9:100. Omar fought for Islam and he defeated the Romans and the Persians in 7 years and spread Islam in those areas. An enemy of Islam would never do that or be able to do so.
@imrantayab I dislike them, especially `Umar, because they committed improper things, but I do not curse them. Abu bakr was chosen as khalifa but Muhammad (pbuh) already named `Ali as khalifa (not only in Ghader khumm) and `Umar stroke pregnant Fatima and caused her death.
@Dhulfeqar Yes, but that started with the rebellion in Uthmans caliphate. Like I said our sources and hadeeth conflict. Yours are different to mine so there is no point arguing about this.
Do you hate Abu Bakr and Umar? Too many times have I heard or seen Shia's cursing them as well. Ofcourse Shia's are wide and varied so you may not be the same as them but from what I've seen there is too much hate.
@imrantayab Now on video. There are appearing some images and among them Khomeini and Sistani. Where you seen those cursing `A'isha or Sahaba? In fact you insulting them by making them portrayed as burning in Jahannam.
@Dhulfeqar Allaah forbids you from it [slandering Aisha r.a] and warns you not to repeat the like of it forever, if you are believers.” [al-Noor 24:17]’”“The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves, and his wives are their mothers.” (Quran, 33:6)
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@Muslimstruggler Those latest rebels are called Khawarij. So, they can not cause Mu`awiyyah's rebellion as they were not existent at time when Mu`awiyyah begin his rebellion.
Decide yourself should you write RA after name of Mu`awiyyah or not.
I am ithna `Ashari, not zaidi.
Dhulfeqar 1 year ago
@Muslimstruggler You wrote after name of Mu`awiyyah Radwan allahu `alayh? Why?
Battle between `Ali and Mu`awiyyah happened later. First `A'isha rebel against `Ali. iShe caused battle of Camel. 10 000 muslims perished. Than rebel Mu`awiyyah and `Amr ibn al-`As. They challenged `Ali, but `Ali broke them and as they saw their defeat, called for negotiations.
`Ali, seeking not to more shed muslim blood, and agreed on negotiations, and part of `Ali's warriors, upon seeing this, rebel.
Dhulfeqar 1 year ago
@Dhulfeqar
The great FITNA which occured between Muawiyah (ra) and Ali (ra) was something the prophet warned about in his life time. It's mentioned in the Sunni Hadith. Both part had ishtihad but most Sunnis side with Ali (ra) but humans do mistakes. The fighting between them was a fitan which were caused by the khawarij made them fight.
BTW are you a zaidi or twelver
Muslimstruggler 1 year ago
@Muslimstruggler I do not hate Umar but I dislike him and have negative view of him. I do not dislike Uthman ibn Affan for example, because he caused no big evil.
What if you will say if I will bring proof from sunni sahih books about Umar striking Fatima Zahra?
Dhulfeqar 1 year ago
@Dhulfeqar
No that's a lie. Omar (ra) never touched Fatima Zahra (ra). He loved Ahlul Bayt and why do you hate Omar (ra) when he is promised paradise in the Quran surah 9:100. Omar fought for Islam and he defeated the Romans and the Persians in 7 years and spread Islam in those areas. An enemy of Islam would never do that or be able to do so.
Muslimstruggler 1 year ago
@imrantayab I dislike them, especially `Umar, because they committed improper things, but I do not curse them. Abu bakr was chosen as khalifa but Muhammad (pbuh) already named `Ali as khalifa (not only in Ghader khumm) and `Umar stroke pregnant Fatima and caused her death.
Dhulfeqar 1 year ago
@Dhulfeqar Yes, but that started with the rebellion in Uthmans caliphate. Like I said our sources and hadeeth conflict. Yours are different to mine so there is no point arguing about this.
Do you hate Abu Bakr and Umar? Too many times have I heard or seen Shia's cursing them as well. Ofcourse Shia's are wide and varied so you may not be the same as them but from what I've seen there is too much hate.
imrantayab 1 year ago
@imrantayab Now on video. There are appearing some images and among them Khomeini and Sistani. Where you seen those cursing `A'isha or Sahaba? In fact you insulting them by making them portrayed as burning in Jahannam.
Dhulfeqar 1 year ago