WTC Collapse VS. Controlled Demolition
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Enter logic:
Beijing Mandarin Oriental Hotel Fire, lasted: 3 hrs
First Interstate Bank Fire, lasted:3.5 hrs
1 New York Plaza Fire, lasted: 6 hrs
Caracas Tower Fire, lasted: 17 hrs
One Meridian Plaza Fire, lasted:18 hrs
ALL AFOREMENTIONED STEEL FRAMED HIGH RISES DID NOT COLLAPSE
Hours? The South Tower, collapsed after a whopping 56 minutes!!!
North Tower, collapsed after 102 minutes
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@muzicmaker2001 You are living in a fantasy world if you don't think structures eventually fail after being on fire for hours/hours with no fire-fighters or water. EVERYTHING collapses if burned long enough. Ask a fire-fighter.
watch?v=WnYBX6QT0R4
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@muzicmaker2001 So first do you agree WTC1-2 were brought down by fires+planes?
How heavy were the "chunks" that hit WTC7?
watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
watch?v=TGiGCd4XVtk 2:13 4:07 fires blazing the entire floors of the building.
Did you look at Windsor?
How long will a steel building on fire last w/no water?
Look up NYC fire code and ASTM standards. They both say 2 hours.
What evidence can you point to that it wasn't just fires? Not how it fell. Physical evidence? watch?v=-UuXFHoX9oQ
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Reason with me? Is that what you have been doing? I have always been curious about this debunker logic. The Towers collapsed because they were hit by planes, right? But with WTC7, it was just falling debris damaging only one side of the building? So, is a plane impact equivalent to falling debris in the ability to bring down a steel framed high rise? Welcome to the matrix...
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@muzicmaker2001 You only research twoofer sites don't you?
npfii. or g/Content. as px?id=25300
mace.manche ster.ac. uk /project/research/structures/s
trucfire/CaseStudy/HistoricFir es/BuildingFires/def ault. ht m **
It was concrete core. Get your facts straight.
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Do you remember the South tower was hit by a plane?
So I have presented my FACTS you fail to answer questions to support your case. The burden is on you to prove it wasn't Planes+fires. Done trying to reason w/you..
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@muzicmaker2001 Nope pretty obvious it didn't. 1. The author even says at the end it only got 3/4 through. If I was proving the crime of the century I would obviously NOT stop until I achieved success if nothing more to honor the victims.
2. The amounts of thermite are far to small to cut anything. They pre-heat steel before thermite welding for that reason.
3. He showed he was a hoax with missing bolt holes on his beam cutter. Obviously cut with ox-acetylene.
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@punxsutawneybarney You would be correct about Mr. Cole.. Except it was an obvious hoax. My proof is simple:
1. thermite would melt his beam cutter before it would melt the beam.
2. bolt holes missing in his after picture prove it was staged.
3. Lack of slag from melting in the after picture.
4. Mythbusters could do the same kind of thick cutting with 1000# of it
ASCE/MIT did look at thermite and determined it would cut vertically and would require over 45 TONS per bldg.
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@MrRexquando Mr. Cole has proven that thermite can cut steel on vertical surfaces. You claim he's a liar. You have the burden of proving your claim.
Reports from MIT/GA Tech/Northwestern/ASCE/ICE/etc
. all have the same assumptions: fire + planes. You provide no evidence that they ever considered the thermate hypothesis. I'm not out to prove it wasn't fire + planes. I'm out to get honest and believable investigations to show if it was or wasn't..
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Debunker: The collapse of the BOTH Towers can be explained by the two massive planes crashing into them at 500 mph.
Logic: But, there was no plane impact on WTC7 and it collapsed in the same manner in secs.
Debunker: Um, that's different. It was debris from the North Tower that caused the collapse of WTC7.
Logic: But WTC6 was in between the North Tower and WTC7, was damaged more than WTC7 and never collapsed?
Debunker: I hate you meddling twoofers and your damn logic!
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