Go Lesson # 2 ladder and end game

This video is part 2 of a go lesson series. This lesson is about ladder and ending the game.

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[ivankomar1]

didnt you forget that whoever is white gets an extra 5 1/2 points ,and every stone counts as 1/2 moku

[clossius]

@ivankomar1 I don't know of a counting system where the stones count as half a point. The chinese rules counts the stones, as I posted in a comment below, this is just the simplest method, the japanese style counting. Now as for komi, it's actually 6.5 now, and in America it's 7.5. I thought I mentioned komi in the video, if not my apologies.

[6c333374]

could you explain why you use territory counting instead of area counting? As far as I know the result is the same (if using passing stones), and area counting seems faster

[clossius]

@6c333374 I'm afraid I don't understand your question. What do you mean difference between area and territory?

[6c333374]

@clossius if you use area counting, dead stones don't have to be collected separately; instead of substracting them you add the number of pieces still on the board

I realize however that if the shape of your territory is very complex (i.e. not rectangular), it is easier to fill it up with dead stones. So OK, I just answered my question :)

We use area counting because we dont have enough stones, so we must use the dead ones again.

[clossius]

@6c333374 Actually you are correct. That way of counting is actually how the chinese do it. They count the territory first, and then the number of stones on the board. (For one side) After that, if what the count is greater than 361/2, then that player wins. How it works is, stones+territory must be greater than 361/2. If it's equal to 361/2, then white wins by half a point. (Komi) Now in even games komi is added. So you count whites score, and you will need territory+stones to equal (361/2)-3.5

[clossius]

@FogmanOgg if white plays inside black territory it would jsut get captured and reduce whites points instead, so he would lose points playing dead stones. And komi used to be 5.5 until a few years ago. Back when hikaru no go was written, it was 5.5. Now and days they are actually using 7.5 in some tournaments.

[123qaz234wsx]

I am learning go because of Hikaru no Go

[ashtonriggers1111]

i love go

[Halokid998]

Thx a lot.

[365DaysofPoker]

Thanks I was able to use this concept in a card game called Tactic War. Don't get involved in the ladder unless you are on the winning end of it!