DNA and The Book of Mormon 3, Ryan Parr 2005 FAIR Conference

Ryan Parr, a geneticist, discusses the issue of DNA and The Book of Mormon, showing from professional view, that the critics are wrong.
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[fairldsorg]

Archaeologists can determine the lack of use of the Bow and arrow by lack of arrowheads which date to that time period. Only after about 500 AD does evidence of them begin to be found.

Enclosures are not cities. The Hopewell would gather together *outside* of the mounds and work together to build it, and disperse back into their own villages when it was finished. No one is denying they existed, they are just not what you think they are.

[fairldsorg]

@biggdannyd I was going to ask you the same thing. If you are getting upset, I apologize. It is pointless to argue about theories. If we can keep a discussion civil (actually, messaging would be MUCH easier, it is hard to be restricted on how much I can post) I would love to continue. If not, perhaps this discussion should end. Agreed?

[biggdannyd]

@fairldsorg did you read what I last said?!!!

How do you know they didn't know what a bow and arrow was? (Please answer this rather than dodging it.)

"Ancient Antiquities of New York" THOUSANDS of these enclosures were found and documented and though some are smaller than others, all are big enough to fit a decent amount of people inside.

Then what about the Jaredites? (Adena)

[fairldsorg]

The Hopewell also didn't get bow and arrow technology until after the end of their civilization, so when Alma 50 speaks of the defensive structures being used to protect themselves against the Lamanites arrows, it becomes a problem for a Great Lakes theory since it this technology was unknown during BOM times. Again, the Hopewell did not have cities, only small villages. There have never been a Hopewell city found.

[fairldsorg]

@biggdannyd Again, I don't see where it says that Moroni built ceremonial mounds. To be honest, I am not sure what this scripture has to do with our discussion. Am I missing something?

In regards to Alma 50:1-7, these are the walls I was speaking about earlier which you said disagreed with. Again, dirt walls aren't culture specific. This is actually an exact description of defensive structures of the Maya at places like Becan. It had a dirt wall with stockades on top that covered nearly 62 acres

[biggdannyd]

@fairldsorg not conquistadores who were sent by the queen of Spain

Alma 50: 1-7 defines the method of construction for all of the Hopewell cities to the T

[biggdannyd]

@fairldsorg Alma 50: 15 "And they also began in that same year to build many cities on the north, one in a particular manner which they called Lehi, which was in the north by the borders of the seashore."

An oil lamp and a menorah are destinctively Jewish, it's even mentioned on a yoyenta blog. The square and cumpass are a little more sensative. The city was 90 miles south of Lake Erie before destroyed by the Gentiles and remnant of the seed of Joseph who came forth out of captivity...

[biggdannyd]

@fairldsorg Alma 50: 15 "And they also began in that same year to build many cities on the north, one in a particular manner which they called Lehi, which was in the north by the borders of the seashore."

An oil lamp and a menorah are destinctively Jewish, it's even mentioned on a yoyenta blog. The square and cumpass are a little more sensative.

Alma 50: 1-7 defines the method of construction for all of the Hopewell cities to the T

[fairldsorg]

@biggdannyd Large amounts of bodies killed from war. They have mounds which generally have less than a dozen people who are buried ceremonially. Also, in addition to the other references I asked for, where in The Book of Mormon does it say Moroni built mounds in the shape of oil lamps? It doesn't.

[fairldsorg]

@biggdannyd As mentioned earlier, the Hopewell did not live in cities nor did they have the population to occupy cities mentioned in The Book of Mormon which is one reason I don't believe they were BOM peoples. They were a small population spread over a large area, and lived in villages with only a few hundred people (at least the larger groups did). Also, Moroni built defensive walls out of dirt and buried large amounts of people which caused a mound. No Hopewell mound has been found with