Creationists Butcher Science Ep. 01 - Ken Graves

Trying out a couple of new things. New intro and new way to present the text rebuttals between the video. Comment whether you enjoy these.

Text rebuttal to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7qhB6oqyjY

TalkOrigins link:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/bombardier.html

NCSE link:
http://ncse.com/cej/2/1/bombardier-beetle-myth-exploded

Ken Graves' church:
http://www.ccbangor.org/

Ken Graves is a creationist who founded his own church. He's also completely ignorant of science. His approach to argument is shouting, false equivalencies and misrepresenting facts. Oh, and evolution is an argument that is analogous to meth labs.

Ken Graves also brings up the bombardier beetle as evidence that design, not evolution, is abound. Duane Gish tried in 1977. It's not a new argument and it's been thoroughly ripped apart by evidence.

Let me know what you think of the new format.

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[atheistram]

Leave your faith in church... let the scientist's handle science.

[aerosmithdreamon]

This is a really REALLY well done show! just keep them coming.. I am loving this.

[cbooth2004]

His comment, "they didn't spend a lot of time in actual science class" is hilarious. Obviously he didn't either. So, by Venn diagram, he shares a significant characteristic with drug dealers. It begs the question, what other overlaps are there?

[cbooth2004]

Strawmen and projection. He's got nothing else, but he masks his feelings of inadequacy with them.

Guitar is extended phenotype. Termite mound is NOT termite; dam is NOT beaver; wax is NOT bee.

And, if bombadier beetle is "fascinating", why didn't he have the interest to study it? He's striking an intellectual pose--but his claim they shoot fire is a misunderstanding that shows he didn't even read Gish's book attentively; it is also a claim of jaw-dropping stupidity and appalling ignorance.

[tbdonnelly67]

This guy is a perfect example of the adage "If you can't make sense, make noise!"

[arayalrio]

@csbair He wants an anchor, that's all. He wants to have a young child-level psychological need - that for a constant and consistently affectionate caregiver - met. A lot of religions keep people stuck at this developmental stage - and don't even offer consistently supportive gods! This explains the black-and-white thinking and immovable beliefs of many 'faithful'. If you never develop the balls simply to question your beliefs, how can you expect to approach anything objectively?

[BarrioAztrologist89]

god i hate this guys voice so much, he tries to yell and sound tough just to get his point across and everything he says is wrong

[psycotria]

@Nebelwesens - The fableS of creationism have been repeated for THOUSANDS of years.

Evidence for, and the IDEA of evolution has been TOLD for a couple HUNDRED years.

Now if BOTH ARE LIES, by your own argument, which do you DISBELIEVE?

'Tell any lie long enough & loud enough, folk will BELIEVE '

Sounds like Creation/Gods to me.

LOL

[FatRakoon]

@mapennisi19

You say you are not trying to be ignorant, but you are I am afraid very much succeeding.

Religion says GOD DID IT.

Biology and abiogenesis dont yet know the exact answers, but its getting close. Its coming up with possible theories then testing them and some are good, some are bad. The good ones they re-test over and over and they are getting closer and closer and closer and maybe one day will have a definitive answer.

But you still just say GOD DID IT. How ignorant can you be?

[FatRakoon]

@iagorincon

;)