Hypocrisy for Using Roads?

Some thoughts on hypocrisy, libertarianism, and using state services like roads.

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• libertarianism
• market
• anarchism
• property
• morality
• hypocrisy
• coercion
• aggression
• force
• false
• choice
• roads
• transportation
• postal
• service

[TheVikingNinja]

i think its funny how libertarians talk about the violence of the state when essentially they just want to take the police out of the equation so they can use there guns to deal with crime.

[XOmniverse]

That's not the libertarian ethos at all, VikingNinja.

Do some reading.

[Slug99]

Sure, people in the Soviet union, they too were total hypocrites. If they really believed that what the government did was wrong they should have just gone on massive hunger strikes and starved to death in defiance of the state.

Retarded argument.

[vonPeterhof]

Slug99, I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, quite a few prominent Russian dissidents seem to have a lot of contempt for their contemporaries for not having ruined their own lives in defiance of the Soviet state. It seems like they think that if you were not a Gulag inmate then you were in effect a Gulag prison guard. This actually helps the modern Soviet apologists, who can and do argue that those dissidents are "heartless" and "out of touch with the people"

[yammyspeed13]

You would forced to pay for public services. Feel free to use them anyway you wish. If you don't your getting screwed twice. The first when they took it by force and the second when you didn't seek any value back in return.

[brennig2]

He looks like L. Trotsky

[brennig2]

So The Soviet Union was founded February 1917 and ended March 1921

[brennig2]

At one point in the war the USSR only controlled St. Petersburg, the Kronshtadt sailors and soviets lead by Trotsky made there final stand, they were victorious and then regained Russia. The Kronstadt soviets were true marxists and believed in all power to the soviets (workers), and therefore gained a lot of popularity, the Bolsheviks didn't like this, and declared war on them, the soviets lost there powers and the USSR (more like USR) became Totalitarianist.

[brennig2]

The soviets were set up during the February revolution which lead a collation government with the provisionals, so the soviets where set up in February, a true Marxist like the Menshaviks would believe the Soviets would seize power at their own time, but in October the Bolsheviks lead a revolution, therefore turning against Marxist views. After the revolution Soviet members were elected to rule the country, the main Soviet being the Kronshtadt in St.Petersburg, then the civil war took place.

[stealthswimmer]

The quality of life for a sustenance farmer is irrelevant. The real issue is that you shouldn't have to be one. The government often uses eminent domain to get roads, and even if it does "buy" roads, it does so with stolen tax money. Therefore government property is illegitimately owned. Secondly, the government uses laws(force) to prevent or impede competition with its services.

Therefore, you might as well use government services because you're more "in the right" than they are.

[GuardofLiberty]

"But you drive on the roads!"

*facepalm*

[Chrisnoscrub047]

5 star, favorited.

[PickingTheScab]

Yes the "October Revolution" took place in November (the Russian Empire was still using the Julian calendar at the time) 1917 but the Bolshevik government didn't control much territory during the civil war and foreign invasions that followed it and so the USSR was only founded in 1922.