Freddie Hubbard w/ McCoy Tyner, Ron Carter, Elvin Jones

Freddie Hubbard w/ McCoy Tyner, Ron Carter, Elvin Jones performing Hubbard's blues tune 'Birdlike'. This was recorded off a live radio broadcast. This part features as fine a piano solo as you are likely to hear by Tyner and then a blistering solo from Hubbard. Audio only but I hope you agree it is worth a listen. To my knowledge it has not been released in any format.

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Music

Tags:

• Freddie
• Hubbard
• McCoy
• Tyner
• Ron
• Carter
• Elvin
• Jones
• Jazz
• Birdlike

[jazzster123]

@altered13th and @titetrax: please take your silly discussion elsewhere

[Praclik22]

I just love the way that Tyner nails those changes. He is few of the guys that use dissonance like this with such finesse.

[derm75]

Just enjoy the music

[derm75]

You both win!

[TiteTrax]

@ALTERED13TH You WISHING Evans was a better pianist than Powell doesn't make it so. I already said that Evans innovated from a harmonic standpoint. ALL jazz pianists use shell chords. Anytime you play the root and the 3rd and the 7th in the left hand and fill in the other chord tones with the left, you're playing shell chords. I'm done here. You, like many of your kind, just like to hear yourself talk. Go study music and science from those that FIRST discovered them.

[TiteTrax]

@ALTERED13TH You're a dreamer. I see you think I feel I need to prove something to you. Science, as viewed by Westerners(caucasians), is very inconclusive because of its narrow-minded approach and lack of holistic assimilation. You need to read about science from the people who FIRST introduced it. The Africans. You'll then understand that genetics is a sub-category of biology. You're an example of what happens when you steal something you don't understand. RACE is genetic!

[ALTERED13TH]

@TiteTrax You are very dogmatic, which is hallmark of rigid certainty. Provide the evidence that Evans did not innovate. He was a brilliant pianist and technically probably a better pianist than Powell, although both were profoundly excellent. Evans used more complex harmony, in his compositions having studied Shoenberg's Theory of Harmony and his use of more full left hand block chords was an innovation. Powell and other painists of the bop era tended to use "shell chords" as you call them.

[ALTERED13TH]

@TiteTrax Biology and genetics are not always the same thing. There are elements of human biology related to race that are in fact genetic. Sickle cell anemia being a genetic adaptation that helped ensure survival of malaria, skin pigmentation being another. Race itself is not genetic. It's a cultural construct, not a genetic one. Genetic research is demonstrating that it is a cultural concept. That's the beauty of science. It shatters silly human myths, many of which are religious.

[TiteTrax]

@ALTERED13TH So you just realized that humans don't know everything about the human body, mind, or spirit. Race is most assuredly biological by definition. Evans didn't innovate ANYTHING melodically or rhythmically. Evans had the luxury of coming AFTER Powell so he used Powell's and others' innovations concerning rhythm. Again, employing and innovating are two different things. Yes I have transcribed MANY of both and MANY others. I give credit where it is due and not where it isn't.

[ALTERED13TH]

@TiteTrax There have been no genes found that determine race. A geneticist can't tell with any degree of certainty by examining a particular human genome what the race of the individual is. Race is far more an artificial human construct than a biological one. Bill Evans contributed melodic and rhythmic innovations as did many, many other pianists, including Bud Powell. Evans actually employed many more complex polyrhythms than did Powell. Have you ever transcribed the work of either?