Turkeys Are Animals, Not A Commodity
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@jimmullett Nobody is doubting that you care about human children. You can care about children AND turkeys. There is no conflict. Children (and adults) are better off not eating turkeys, and turkeys are better off not being eaten. Everybody wins!
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@RawFoodFreedom The point is that I don't care about lab rats or protesting for thier freedom naked like ppl form peta. I care more about human children than turkeys.
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@ELseizure Why? Because I care more about the starving children in Africa then turkeys?
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@jimmullett lmao. That statement is so stoopid its funny. And your calling vegans pathetic.
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They want to live! YES!!!
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@jimmullett Also, not sure where you're pulling this whole 'children > animals' thing. Did I say anything about not valuing human life? Part of what's so cool about eating vegan is that it's good for everyone - people, animals, planet.
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@jimmullett Lions (not to mention all other animals besides humans) can't be held to ethical standards, Jim. They have not developed a consciousness that can make ethical decisions. They act on instinct and seek out survival and have little/no capacity for self-reflection. I speak on the assumption that most people can hopefully demonstrate that they CAN self-reflect and make choices beyond their survival drives.
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Yay!! They're great! I love that you took the moments to make this video!! Thanks :)
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@RawFoodFreedom My point is that a lot of vegans think that killing animals is murder and unethical but its ok for lions to kill animals. Obligate carnivores or not, its still murder according to vegan ethics. Thats a cop out statement to justify animals eating each other. Children are far more important than protesting for the ethical treatment of lab mice.
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Your song is stuck in my head.
@jimmullett Humans are not obligate carnivores. This is not a debated issue. Since we are a) not biologically obligated to eat animals, and b) thinking, reasoning creatures (unlike EVERY OTHER ANIMAL), we have an ethical imperative to live as compassionately as possible.
Most children are starving because of widespread meat and dairy consumption. Look it up, bro. World hunger could quickly be solved if we ate the plants we're feeding to animals, which is highly inefficient.
RawFoodFreedom 2 months ago 14
@jimmullett Well, our reasonable discussion is off to a great start with you calling me an 'idiot' and 'pathetic.' If I'm so clearly wrong, why is it necessary to bolster your argument with ad hominem attacks? Sounds like you're more conflicted than you'd like to be.
RawFoodFreedom 2 months ago 8