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What the Qur'an says about the Bible corrupt or uncorrupt?

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Is the Bible truly God's Word ?

Who wrote the Bible ?

Was the bible corrupted as Muslims claim?

Representing the Muslim perspective was Nadir Ahmed: Nadir is a Muslim apologist backed by the Islamic Center of Peoria,

He has held debates with figures such as Matt Slick, David Wood, Sam Shamoun, Dr. Richard Carrier and Dr. James White.

Representing the Christian side was Sam Shamoun: Sam is a Christian Apologist , Debater and Evangelist, Born in Kuwait, Sam moved with his family to the US at the tender age of 2 years old.

Sam's religious upbringing was based on the teachings found in most Assyrian homes, the Church of the East (more commonly known as the Nestorian Church).

Mr. Shamoun lectures and teaches across the country and is a regular guest speaker for many leading missionary and Christian education organizations.

The Topic of Debate: What the Qur'an says about the Bible corrupt or uncorrupt?

Nadir Ahmed (www.Examinethetruth.com)

vs.

Sam Shamoun (www.Answering-Islam.org)

For further information on upcoming or previous debates click here

http://www.examinethetruth.com/WhatsNew.html

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  • @Adonomos oops didnt notice that you were replying to him... my bad

    The following hadith is sufficient to prove that we muslims dont worship the black stone.

    According to Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, book of Hajj, chapter 56, H.No. 675. Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said, "I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (pbuh) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you"

  • @Adonomos oops... all right... my bad... i didnt notice you replied to him...

    Well difference of opinion is natural... but i think, i can give you a hadith which would prove that we muslims never worship the black rock... Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said, "I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (pbuh) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you". - Sahih Bukhari, Vol 2, book of Hajj, chaptr 56, Hadith# 675

  • @zrbahar My sarcastic response was to exposemyfoes regarding Mother Mary and his branding of idolatry. Your point is valid but it should be directed to him not me!

    Regarding the black rock where one pilgrimages to it, kisses & hugs it? My opinion differs with yours!

    All the best.

  • @Adonomos Brother i think its common sense... If i say that you are a very good person, you are one of the best human beings i ever met and if i throw a party or name a STREET in my city after you, doesn't mean im doing idolatry... COMMON SENSE BROTHER!!!

    And as far as the black stone is concerned, WE MUSLIMS NEVER WORSHIP IT. For details, please go to IRF.NET and look for the question under the FAQ...

    Thank you and have a good day

  • @lubenstern Proof the bible IS corrupt:

    /watch?v=DlucDUgMusI&feature=r­elated

  • shamshon guy is a coward he only wants to debtate on the net not in the open thats why dr zakir refused

  • @exposemyfoes

    Explain to me if the quran has a whole chapter honouring Mother Mary is that not a form of idolatry?

    True Christians believe God is the God of the living not the dead and the Jews believed this.

    Mark 15:35

    When some of those standing near heard this, they said, "Listen, he's calling Elijah."

    Why would they think this? Your missing the big picture, so you don't know the Bible as well as you think!

    Also can U explain the black rock? This is idolatry that islam embraces and kisses!

  • @lubenstern look the jews call u idolators,the muslims call u idolators,your fellow christians call u idolators,so get the hint,the quran is right in what it says about you elevating mary to a position of god,since you aint monotheistic u wouldnt understand what the quran is talking about,even hindus claim they dnt worship their idols but only use them as mediators,u pray to mary,i cant be bothered debating catholics because protestants are doin a good enough job crushing them

  • @exposemyfoes James white is elevating it higher than what it is and distorting what is meant by the Catholics!

    Dialogue with Catholics on the tube and see what they say!

  • @Adonomos Millions of petitioners from round the world are imploring Pope John Paul II to recognize Virgin Mary as "Co-Redeemer" with Christ, elevatin the topic of Catholic views of Mary to national headlines and widespread discussion.cited directly from Roman Catholic sources to explore how Mary esteemed mother of the Lord chosen vessel of God has become the Immaculately Conceived, viewed as Co-Mediator with Christ and recognized as Co-Redeemer by many Roman Catholics. by james white.

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