Copyrights in Oriental Dance by Beata & Horacio Cifuentes

Copyrights - Questions and Answers by Beata & Horacio Cifuentes http://www.oriental-fantasy.com

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[EtherealTribal]

Ok, so i'm going to be a bit of a black sheep here. After watching the peices together, and knowing that oriental dance has a very specific vocabulary, and a very specific way of hitting accents, and very specific foot/floor patterns, and specific expressions. Do we not think it possible that two dancers could interpret a song in a similar fashion? Like, if one person shimmies on a drum roll, then no one after can? and if someone arabesques on a long melodic violin note, no one else can?

[BeataHoracio]

@EtherealTribal Hi sweetie,

not if one dancer gets a DVd with the other on it and copies it. anyway, in this case it is very clear that it is a copy, almost 100% identical.

keep dancing, beata

[BeataHoracio]

thank you for asking! the music danced by beata is "Msafer wahdak" from the CD Oriental Fantasy Vol 11, it is also on the DVD Oriental Fantasy "Enchanted Gardens". Horacio´s drum solo is on the DVD Oriental Fantasy "Egyptian Love Affair".

[alittlebitofperil]

How do you deal with this? TOTAL blatant copying here - as an artist, I would not want to copy someone elses work (dance or painting - i do both), i don't see the point! then its not your work, its someone elses! not to mention someone elses hard work!

[BeataHoracio]

part of dealing with it is making it public. hopefully this will raise the awareness for this subject in the dance community!

happy dancing to all ARTISTS!

Beata & Horacio

[Bahira1001]

I see that there are a lot of things imitaed from your choreographies!! Great choreographies by the way :)  But is it a problem for you, if a non-professional dancer like me takes the music from your CDs and dances his/herher own choreography to the music and puts it on youtube? Just a question, I haven't uploaded anything.

[pabloAbdel]

sea o no una copia, cada bailarinas (las dos primeras) poseen una esencia, un estilo único que, aquella esencia es imposible copiarlo por tan sólo algunos pasos. Beata es elegante, sobria, precisa, y la otra bailarina bastante estilizada para algunos casos.

[MariaMarusita]

фу какие у беккер ресницы клееные..

[alhasanification]

Does anybody now the name of the last song with beata and the big puppet !?

[Alia256]

Ich hab dich gesehen im Polen ein Jahr her und das war wunderbar. Deine Tanz erläuchtet mich *.*

[mandomom2003]

Artists differ in their requirement of use of their material; as it is stated here, ask first.

[mandomom2003]

Ethereal Tribal; it is quite evident that this is a copy, not someone who has "interpreted' the dance in the same way. Like many dancers, I watch lots of videos and yes, it is amazing how other choreographers will put a hip drop or shimmy in where I have done so, however, this is a copy. There are obviously combinations in full taken here, with torso, arms and accents identical, or only one thing changed slightly.

[edus20]

of course it's a shame to see this kind of copies, however original artists shouldn't pay a lot of attention to these, beaucause they can always create more beautiful interpretations that the copycat's can never get, at least not with the corret emotions.

[FreelanceFool]

@EtherealTribal

You have to be kidding! Oriental Dance is hardly THAT limited. I'm not a dancer myself (amateur dance photographer, videographer and webmaster) but even I can tell this is a copy of a choreography. 90% of the time the movements are identical. The statistical chances of two dancers interpreting the same piece of music in such a similar way are about as likely as two artists painting the same picture of the same scene in the same style.