Is Sustainability Fair?

Question: Can the process of moving from an unsustainable world to a sustainable world happen in a way that's completely fair to everyone?

Links in the Video:

"Could sustainability lead to an authoritarian future" by Kurt Cobb
http://resourceinsights.blogspot.com/2008/07/could-sustainability-lead-to.html

"Arithmetic, Population, and Energy" by Dr. Albert Bartlett
http://globalpublicmedia.com/lectures/461

David Strahan Interviewed on BBC Newsnight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApeVFd5ypn4

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[Bernd1964]

Most people simply don't understand the message that we live in a finite world and only intelligent individuals think about future questions at all. Many people share childish beliefs, they regard the world as a mystical place depending on sorcery or religion. In my view the fate of the human species is therefore mainly determined by unconscious drives and evolutionary programmed behaviours very similar to other animal species on earth. And that means collapse of civilization will come naturally

[barfrecords]

I say he looks like he has a bachelor's degree, and indeed he does not seem to be working. And also the internet does run on oil, everything does.

[markdeming1989]

On what basis are you making a value judgment as to fairness? I fear that most of us are arguing yet not centered in our own judgement. We are utilitarians one moment, individualists the next. Once we believe in transcendent ethics of justice and mercy, then again we are materialists, empiricists. If we don't understand our own judgement we are unfit to judge. In such a case survival means nothing from extinction; nor life from death; the sustainable from the ephemeral; much less human rights f

[markdeming1989]

What is fair? I think there are a few problems in your train of thought. You need to decide where the center of your morality is coming from. Is morality based on human law or spiritual law? Do you believe in abstract ideals like justice and mercy as the foundation for moral judgment or is it all based on utility? Are rights innate as your suggest or the convenient pronouncement of man? Everyone person needs discover then on there own, and we need to be careful of talking out of both sides of o

[Seedofwinter]

@barfrecords Internet does not run on oil, that's preposterous. Maybe coal through electricity, but not oil 

[fuckoNo5]

@Theeye1987 ...The people in big trade, big oil, and big industry will suffer the least. They will continue to own you and have the resources to liquidate and rebuild a new empire over your head in the drop of a hat, once they determine what the new major demand is.

[fuckoNo5]

Our generation needs to make a sacrifice for the children of our children. An ENORMOUS adjustment must be made that will be fair to few. This is something that must be done, though.

[vijayanand875]

Folks we are searching the Black cat in the Dark room, We can talk like this for months and years=NO Solution. There is a solution for this''zeitgeist movement'', ''The Venus project.'' Please check out this with patience.

[DaFuckyouat]

Civilizations have collapsed hundreds of times throughout human history. Humans are just never going to learn from those collapses . They are never going to accept that civilization itself  is unsustainable. Even if human population is reduced to 3000 in one area, there'll probably be one delusional and charismatic person there trying to inspire other people to recreate another failed empire.