@ProgRockNerd The mistakes are already here and you just have to notice that it was a progressive President who got fooled by the Brits/French Government along the the Brits/French Government friend Hillary Clinton. The majority of both houses of Congress and majority of Americans don't support the bombing of Libya. Why because we need to focus on the debt. The less US territories that join America would be better for America in the long run. Of course DC is on land and should be a state.
@v19d "Out" the door? I hardly know of any who've gotten *in*! OTOH, the public has already soured on teabagger neo-Birchers who are sorry 1967 happened; corporate centrists like BHO look pretty good in comparison. Here's hoping the What's Left doesn't make the same mistake in 2012 that they made in 1968.
@ProgRockNerd 2012 will be the year that the Radical left and so called progressives will be shown out the door everywhere there is a 2012 election with those 2 types in office. I for one will make sure my money is sent to Puerto Rico independence parties regardless how left they are. But they seem to be the only group that has independence in its platform while the rest want to become the 51st state. DC will be the last territory to become a state.
@UncleMikeNJ : That's because the U.S. still had an embassy in Saigon. You'll notice it's always the same shot. There was a cease-fire signed a week after Nixon's second inaugural (that's when the POWs came home, remember); it was a really momentous event, and it's a measure of the Mechanism's narrative-setting power that hardly anyone seems to remember it. An exclusive emphasis on the fall of Saigon years after U.S. combat troops had left serves the reactionary narrative better.
@mindspring57 The lazy and the shiftless? That's the CEOs, not the people who break their backs working for them. And if Nixon ended U.S. involvement in Vietnam, why were we putting people on helicopters 8 months after Ford became President?
@v19d No, that was McGovern who flushed the Democrats down the toilet, when he said he would go crawling on his hands and knees to Hanoi. As for Obama, under his leadership, Osama bin Laden was killed, something George Bush could not or would not do. Instead of pursuing bin Laden, Bush started a war looking for mythical weapons, and all he has to show for it is 4,000+ dead soldiers.
Hubert, who was LBJ's Vice President, is someone to talk. LBJ escaled the Vietnam War, put 500,000+ men under arms, and did not have a clue on how to win the war. LBJ's "social programs" stirred up the lazy and the shiftless and caused rioting in the streets and once-great cities (e.g. Los Angeles, Newark, Detroit) were in flames. LBJ's successor, Nixon, ended U.S. involvement in Vietnam.
DC can't be a state. I wish y'all pro-staters understand that
BIGJXXX 3 weeks ago
@v19d: Did you support the Iraq war?
ProgRockNerd 6 months ago
@ProgRockNerd The mistakes are already here and you just have to notice that it was a progressive President who got fooled by the Brits/French Government along the the Brits/French Government friend Hillary Clinton. The majority of both houses of Congress and majority of Americans don't support the bombing of Libya. Why because we need to focus on the debt. The less US territories that join America would be better for America in the long run. Of course DC is on land and should be a state.
v19d 6 months ago
@v19d "Out" the door? I hardly know of any who've gotten *in*! OTOH, the public has already soured on teabagger neo-Birchers who are sorry 1967 happened; corporate centrists like BHO look pretty good in comparison. Here's hoping the What's Left doesn't make the same mistake in 2012 that they made in 1968.
ProgRockNerd 6 months ago
@ProgRockNerd 2012 will be the year that the Radical left and so called progressives will be shown out the door everywhere there is a 2012 election with those 2 types in office. I for one will make sure my money is sent to Puerto Rico independence parties regardless how left they are. But they seem to be the only group that has independence in its platform while the rest want to become the 51st state. DC will be the last territory to become a state.
v19d 6 months ago
@UncleMikeNJ : That's because the U.S. still had an embassy in Saigon. You'll notice it's always the same shot. There was a cease-fire signed a week after Nixon's second inaugural (that's when the POWs came home, remember); it was a really momentous event, and it's a measure of the Mechanism's narrative-setting power that hardly anyone seems to remember it. An exclusive emphasis on the fall of Saigon years after U.S. combat troops had left serves the reactionary narrative better.
ProgRockNerd 7 months ago
@mindspring57 The lazy and the shiftless? That's the CEOs, not the people who break their backs working for them. And if Nixon ended U.S. involvement in Vietnam, why were we putting people on helicopters 8 months after Ford became President?
UncleMikeNJ 8 months ago 2
Happy 100th Birthday, Hubert. I'm sorry I wasn't around to make you President.
UncleMikeNJ 8 months ago
@v19d No, that was McGovern who flushed the Democrats down the toilet, when he said he would go crawling on his hands and knees to Hanoi. As for Obama, under his leadership, Osama bin Laden was killed, something George Bush could not or would not do. Instead of pursuing bin Laden, Bush started a war looking for mythical weapons, and all he has to show for it is 4,000+ dead soldiers.
mindspring57 8 months ago
Hubert, who was LBJ's Vice President, is someone to talk. LBJ escaled the Vietnam War, put 500,000+ men under arms, and did not have a clue on how to win the war. LBJ's "social programs" stirred up the lazy and the shiftless and caused rioting in the streets and once-great cities (e.g. Los Angeles, Newark, Detroit) were in flames. LBJ's successor, Nixon, ended U.S. involvement in Vietnam.
mindspring57 8 months ago