Rogue 3 error fix

A quick video showing a small fix in ESB:R to solve the problem of Luke calling Wedge "Rogue 2" when he is in fact "Rogue 3". The audio mix is unfinished so Luke's voice isn't the final mix

Category:

Film & Animation

Tags:

• star
• wars
• revisited
• adywan
• hoth
• snowspeeder
• empire
• strikes
• back

[flan1708]

Good job, just a quick thought though: if Skywalker is the wing commander in this battle (not a ref to the video games!), then couldn't it be possible when he orders Wedge to use his tow cables that he's still keeping tabs on his other wingmen, i.e. Rogue 2? I'm not trying to attack you. I think you did a good editing job, I just wanted to suggest this. Thanks.

[adywanuk]

@flan1708 yes i had thought about this, but with the focus being on Wedge's run it seems more logical that he would be talking to wedge

[startanica]

I checked out on IMDB that this is actually incorrectly regarded as a mistake. Given that Luke is Rogue Leader during the Battle of Hoth and that Zev Senesca (Rogue 2) had not been shot at this point, it is possible that Luke was talking to him while Wedge (Rogue 3) was making his pass around the Imperial Walker. Kinda like how Red Leader in ANH was communicating to his fleet of X-Wings.

I'm not against your "audio" change in this. I'm just saying that audio could work either way.

[adywanuk]

@startanica Don't believe everything you read on IMDb. Most of these type of entries are submitted by members and aren't even verified. Hobbie is Luke's wingman and not Zev. If they had bothered to actually study the sequence they would have seen there were only 3 speeders present on that run to begin with. Hobbie, Luke & Wedge. Hobbie goes off and there are only 2 speeders left. Luke is covering Wedge so why would he suddenly call out to Zev when he isn't even there?

[Flash11I19]

How did you make Mark Hamill say something diffrent, unless you called him and told him he should say that simply line for the fix :P?

[adywanuk]

@Flash11I19 it's taken from the Empire strikes back radio dramatisations

[skycaprob]

@startanica sorry to say but yes hes a leader but you would be consintrating on your wingman...... i can understand the fact about him being a leader but if wedge is on attack hes more lickly to be hit by anti aircraft meening luke gota have eyes on him at all time... at that current moment in time... btw he might be rogue leader but the flight splits into differnt groups. eg two aircraft. one lead and the other wingman. they then check eachothers back while making ground attacks :D

[skycaprob]

@flan1708 no in combat situations the wing commander doesnt take command he will give orders for whos attacking what before the battle then you have differnt people who are in charge eg lead and wingman.... he would be on his own but if someone calls for help u do the best to help him... i play il2 online and its very realistic eg takes 15 minutes to reach target area. but as i was saying wedge is luke's wingman at yavin so i can amagine him still being his wingman here too :D

[Timmeh75]

Another possible way to do this is to add a shot of another snowspeeder covering Wedge as well as Luke. Luke and the other wingman "Rogue 2" is covering Wedge and there is a little turbulence shake by blaster fire and then Lukes "Steady Rogue 2" line.

It thought thats what the scene was but you never got to see the other wingman.

[Wedge4Life]

as a fan of editing, I really appreciate all of the work your doing ... and also sharing your work on youtube .... even if your not going to use everything your showing its interesting to see and let us comment on

[FekLeyrTarg]

In the comic adaption (at least in the german version), Wedge is also Rogue 3.

[FekLeyrTarg]

I've just checked the german version of the SE of ESB. Luke correctly says Rogue 3 there.

[kblargh]

Well, i half feel like an idiot for bringing this up along with the choir, but the way he says the Steady part always stuck with me for some reason, so it's kinda weird to hear him say it like that. I mean, i think you did the right thing, it just kinda sucks that we have to loose that bit.

[daboudzi]

I know the audio source is different.. i notice that in the original Mark has a higher more excited voice.... for the radio audio used to correct this scene... Mark has a lower voice... it is not giving the same emotion!! I'm not sure if I like this..but anyway good job!!

[dinoballz]

I always thought Rogue 3 was another craft and Rogue 2 was the Gunner with Luke. Who I thought was called Wes.

[dinoballz]

I always thought Rogue 3 was another craft and Rogue 2 was the Gunner with Luke.