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No to AV will tell you that they are a cross party non-partisan campaign - but the truth is that only two parties are 100% committed to a NO vote on Thursday May 5th - the TORY party (who have even banned the Conservative Yes to AV campaign from their own conference - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12428491 ) and the BNP

First-Past-The-Post meant that at the last election the Tories got 47 percent of the seats in the House of Commons even though they won just 36 percent of the vote.

The NO to AV campaign is all about the Tories huge vested Interest in maintaining unfair votes and NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with what is best for you the voters or for Britain's democracy.

The Tories want you to help them stay in power by voting NO to AV in the referendum on Thursday May 5th. Don't listen to their lies

http://www.yestofairervotes.org/

http://labouryes.org.uk/

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  • Well, only a minority turned out to vote between these two undemocratic systems (turn out of 41%), the majority gave these two systems the contempt they deserve. The main parties and their supporters are supporters of undemocratic values, with only their interest at heart. No wonder people turned to violence in order to further their aims because it isn't possible to do it at the ballot box in this country.

  • So true,Cross Party non-partisan my ass! The Tories and their friends who control most of the press,Murdock &Co, are pulling out all the stops to mislead the public,Why! Because they would likely lose out on the hugely inflated numbers of voters versus seats in Parliament they have at present.,its all vested interest,you will get very few die hard Tory supporters supporting AV,they love it just as it is.

  • @Sliepnir2006 No one can steal your vote. If you want to put just one party on your ballot paper, you're free to do that. The rest of us like the idea of being able to make a second choice.

  • Only America & UK adopt FPTP in it purest form.

    Who would u choose Al Gore or Bush in 2001 USA election under FPTP?! If AV exist Bush certainly wouldn't get 8 years in office. I don't want a UK version of Bush!

  • If I understood correctly, only few countries uses AV, but majority of the countries in the world "no longer uses" FPTP or at it pure form, their reasoning that FPTP was an old system no longer fit for todays system.

    Also under the FPTP era there were many situation where the term "U turn" occurs against their own manifesto.

    So the question is AV worst than this FPTP?

  • @Sliepnir2006 if Greens get enough votes they won't come last. Like already in Brighton. In AV, folks will no longer be frightened away from voting for smaller parties by the thought they can't win, so they will win more support, will often not come last, hence have a chance of winning, and break down the 3 party system. Only small party this won't work for is BNP, because they are the bottom preference of everyone except their supporters, so no gain from preferences. But Greens will gain.

  • AV may not be the proportional system some had hoped for, but the truth is that it fixes a lot of the things that are wrong with FPTP without adding any new ones.If we want the chance of public debate on PR any time in the next 40 years we need to vote yes now. A no vote will be painted as a no vote to any kind of reform.

  • @Sliepnir2006 fine, go ahead and vote no, don't expect another vote to reform the electoral system before you're about 90. It's typical for people in this country to make the best the enemy of the good.

  • People fail to see the wider picture in politics.

    It's all, if it doesn't fit with my ideology, it's shite and it's worse for the whole country overall.

    I hope AV comes about, and hopefully that will lead to a better system such as STV.

  • @shahideurope I might also agree that FTFP is the most undemocratic pile of trash since The Roman Empire, but the AV system will be no better when it comes to the crunch, trouble is many people want change and that is completely understandable and sadly people will grab at any straw if they think it will that change.

    The sad fact is that in burying FTFP, you may just bring about an even worse system, which in itself, will only further serve to protect the interests of the three main parties.

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