ClimateGate debate in BBC

Climate change sceptic Professor Fred Singer, and Professor Bob Watson, the chief scientific advisor at the department of the environment debate the issues over climate change and global warming. 23 Nov. 2009.

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• Fred Singer
• CRU
• Hacker
• Climategate
• climate swindle
• IPCC
• greenhouse effect
• global warming
• Al Gore

[LeJimster]

I find it interesting how as time goes on prof Bob Watson sounds less and less convinced by his own arguments. It's nice to see a civilized debate rather than name calling for a change.

[vsaluki]

I'm totally shocked that the BBC actually had a balanced discussion on this topic. It's a first.

[wimahlers]

@LeJimster,

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"as time goes on prof Bob Watson sounds less and less convinced by his own arguments"

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It is worse than that! Singer sounds more and more convincing ... for the lay person.

Gladly science is not decided by a public debate. In a public debate the best debater always wins. This usually is the debater that tells the most nonsense and lies as well. Telling the truth, knowing the difficulties, admitting that you don't know everything is more scientific but less convincing.

[U1T001]

@oomblikkies

'During the Dinosaur period' maybe you mean the cartoon diagram of CO2/Av.T -mya. This diagram shows no real values - it is something like 1 million moving average.

The times you are talking about were in another world, with other species, with another capacity to process the CO2. BTW what caused the mass extinction of species during that period.

If I were to trade at the stock exchange by using such one million (years) moving average I will be Dead-On-Arrival at the trading floor.

[oomblikkies]

Prof.Singer is correct in his opening statement that there is no link between temp and CO2 in the climate record. Here is the proof: During the Dinosaur period the CO2 level was 4 to 5 times more than what it is today, but despite this relative high CO2 level, the temp was more or less the same as today.. and the biodiversity was at an all time high. So, the scare that earth will go into a run-away hot house is not true.

[Gardien48]

@toulouse666

Other solution:

IPCC = International pack of climate crooks.

[cupera1]

@SiberianExpress2007

solutions like 20%+ unemployment, live in homes of less than 900 square feet, a diet of <1000 calories per day & a 1 child family restriction enforced with Chinese zeal, no private cars only golf carts and taxes that would crush any economic activity. Except for the eco elite, they will still have 4 mansions, private jets, 20X energy use of an ordinary home, and the life style of the rich and famous. Do as we say not as we do.

[toulouse666]

IPCC = Incompetents Passing Correlation as Causation.

[SiberianExpress2007]

The argument that scientists exaggerate to get more funding makes no sense. 97% of working climate scientists say that AGW is happening. All of these scientists say that the solution to AGW is cutting GHG emmissions. If your agrument is valid, once we make the necessary changes to combat GW, there would be no reason to continue telling scary stories about what will happen if we don't change. Deniers attempting to keep controversy alive would mean that more funding is needed to study the problem.