Americans tell of USA infantry massacre and rape of allied civilian women and children in South Vietnam. US Army photos and film. NOTE NOT in hostile territory, NOT an enemy village in South Vietna...
Americans tell of USA infantry massacre and rape of allied civilian women and children in South Vietnam. US Army photos and film. NOTE NOT in hostile territory, NOT an enemy village in South Vietnam, no-one properly punished. (you get more for DUI or pot than Calley got, he was out in under four months, no one else punished at all.)
Most important was that SOME Americans knew better and tried to stop it AT THE TIME. The black guy from Detroit, the helicopter crew , Pvt Berhart and others, goes to show who has morals and who doesn't. The dude from Detriot couldn't understand how how they didn't know morals form somewhere, and the helicopter pilot and others who likened them to Nazi's and didn't go to Vietnam to be the Nazi's
You sullied your allies with this, New Zealand and Australia are still dirty from this, it doesn't wash off. Our heroes have this stain on them even if THEY did no wrong.
Yet still in Iraq CNN shows the USA continuing with NAZI tactics, using civilians (children even) under duress to check booby traps and to knock on doors of suspected ambushes, against Geneva. Using civilian contractors with No accountability. WHEN ARE THE USA GOING TO LEARN.? Stop being the Nazi's, or at least censor your press and TV stop youtube etc. Hide what you do , the Nazi's at least knew that one, be decent enough to have shame.
Same with the BAIT for SNIPER programme, if bullets were left near a school in your town would someone other than a terrorist pick them up, would it be okay for a Army sniper to kill them as a terrorist then.? I can think of LOTS of reasons someone other than a terrorist would remove pyrotechnics, left lying around by the US army as bait.
Some people just are not thinking it's the old oxymoron "military intellegence".
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Frederick562: Bullshit. The fact that the South Vietnamese government was indeed both corrupt and abusive does not mean that Soviet-backed Marxism was a good cure.
In fact, had the US not deliberately backed and propped up a Catholic hardliner who abused and alienated the majority Buddhist rural population (a colossally stupid move, in hindsight) they likely would have garnered the popular support necessary to at least keep the North out and the VC under control. We couldn't do it alone.
According to the UNHCR (UN High Commissioner for Refugees) estimate, at least 500,000 boat people lost their lives on their jouney for freedom, not mentioning 95,000 army officials of former South Vietnam died in "reeducation " camps established by communists.
Total Vietnamese democide by communists: 1,040,000 (1975-87) Executions: 100,000 Camp Deaths: 95,000 Forced Labor: 48,000 Democides in Cambodia: 460,000 Democides in Laos: 87,000 Vietnamese Boat People: 500,000 deaths
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In fact, had the US not deliberately backed and propped up a Catholic hardliner who abused and alienated the majority Buddhist rural population (a colossally stupid move, in hindsight) they likely would have garnered the popular support necessary to at least keep the North out and the VC under control. We couldn't do it alone.
Both side of the Vietnam war were totalitarian in nature.
Total Vietnamese democide by communists: 1,040,000 (1975-87)
Executions: 100,000
Camp Deaths: 95,000
Forced Labor: 48,000
Democides in Cambodia: 460,000
Democides in Laos: 87,000
Vietnamese Boat People: 500,000 deaths