SeaBird－Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe

1965 凱旋門賞 SeaBird

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[rscarbro100]

@MrAddyginsh I forgot to mention Key to the Mint the 4th champion he beat in the Marlboro Cup. He was champion horse of the yr. in 1972. He ran a 1:33 3/5 mile at Belmont Park in 1973. Also Andy Beyer said Secretariat was not in the same form as he was in his Triple Crown races. Laurin said he would liked another week of training. He had only 4 workouts in 2 wks in where he had 6 each for the Derby, Preakness & Belmont.

[rscarbro100]

@MrAddyginsh Lets take a close look at Secretariat competition he ran against in the Marlboro Cup. All were older horses. Riva Rige winner of the Derby & Belmont. Still hold WR for the 1 3/16 mile. He also broke the WR in the Marlboro Cup 1:46 flat. Eclipse award at 2 and 4 yrs. old. Set 4 track records. Kennedy Road 5 time Canadian Champion. His trainer Clarke Whitaker said he was one of the best Canada ever produced.Secretariat beat 2 multiple champions in these two. Cont.

[rscarbro100]

@MrAddyginsh Turcotte said right here on youtube he was just gallping in the Belmont and if really got into him down the stretch it would be hard telling what he would have done. As you might have already seen we got the severe mental retarded Secretariat hater as our vistor. Be careful and don't make him mad who will will talk shit about you mom. He don't take DRF or Bloodhorse as proof of anything. He goes off like a wild monkey when mad.

[MrWalto69]

PROVE OUT PROVE OUT PROVE OUT PROVE OUT ;)

[rscarbro100]

@MrAddyginsh Lets start with the jockey Pat Day. He said he won it with the minimum of encouragement. Sportswriter Red Smith said if asked by Turcotte he would have broken the WR set by Fiddle Isle in 1970 running a 2:23 flat on turf at Santa Anita race track. Bloodhorse editor at the time Kent Hollingsworth said he won it without raising a sweat. Chic Anderson said Turcotte did nothing but hand ride him. Some pretty good horseman to back up my claim he was not at full throttle.

[rscarbro100]

@MrAddyginsh Did any expert Hoseman ever said SeaBird never ran at full throttle? Did they ever say he just casually strolled to clinch a victory or its it only a opinion by some? Talk is cheap proving it is another thing. Believe me my talk is cheap too unless I can back it up with credible sources. Lets remember Secretariat was never ridden out in a race. I will tell you the statements make by expert horseman on Secretariat Belmont Stakes run. Cont.

[rscarbro100]

@MrAddyginsh Tom Rolfe won only 3 major races in 1965, They were the American Derby, Arlington Inv. & the Preakness. Them 3 races was good enough to earn him 3 yr. old horse of the yr. That can tell you pretty much the competition he had in 1965, Only won 6 major races in his 3 yr. career. The only achivements I can find that Reliance had was he won the French Derby and for Anilin he only won the Russian Derby.I would not have found them if I did not look into Seabird record. Cont.

[MrAddyginsh]

@rscarbro100 I think it's hard to say what SeaBird at full throttle could have done, as it wasn't really his style. In the Arc, the Epsom Derby, and the Grand prix de Saint Cloud, he coasted on the bit and just casually strolled up to clinch the victory, with a few lengths in hand, granted it was never 31 lengths, but he wasn't what you call " a machine", just a fighting champion. His reputation came about by beating fields with a strong calibre, especially the Arc field of 1965.

[rscarbro100]

@MrAddyginsh With all due respect to SeaBird my friend I absolutely cannot see anything he did to justify or indicate that he was capable to run against a horse like Secretariat. If so I would love for someone to explain it to me.If SeaBird even came close to putting up the numbers Big Red did believe me it would get my attention big time standing up with my eyes bigger than a saucer without a doubt.

[rscarbro100]

@MrAddyginsh The trainer of the K.Y Derby winner in 1916 who had seen more than Hatton said the same. His name is Hollie Hudges. I have never read where any horseman that has seen both thought Man 0' War was best. Beleive me I am not 'Bias. I do not care where Secretariat came from. Still he would have done what he did. I have never seen any horse that put up the numbers like Big Red did in such a short time.If this horse could not blow someone's mind then what other horse did?