Families of Soldiers Call for Investigation into Deaths After Military Hazing

Hearings will take place in Afghanistan, though advocates and the soldier's family want them to take place within the US

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[DUNiT718]

come on it just so happens the camera that was there wasn't working come on, reminds me of the time my friends mother got hit by a government car in city hall and they said the traffic cam wasn't working

[Mahoivlich]

I guess there are a lot of plea bargained white trash in the ranks now.

[elbowbiter1]

@checkunderyourbed Name one change ever that didn't start off small. Don't bother, you can't. Peace, my friend.

[checkunderyourbed]

@elbowbiter1 Again different circumstances. Vastly different circumstances.

[elbowbiter1]

@checkunderyourbed All massive social change comes from small groups of like minded people utilizing technical know how to effectively grow and change the way the entire world does it's thing. The agricultural revolution spread like wild fire only when small groups of people settled down and grew their food. The internet began with two computers. So, a few people walking away from an amoral institution could be all it takes to start the landslide that will end the status quo.

[checkunderyourbed]

@elbowbiter1 no doubt, rich profit off of wars...it's a problem. It's just a much larger problem than a group of similarly thinking people can handle. This is a matter of changing the world. It would require the elimination of national governments and social structuring. Sort of anarchic.

[elbowbiter1]

@checkunderyourbed One thing that we already know, is that war isn't a biological determinant. War ISN'T in our DNA. The rest is about changing the culture and the socio economic structure. We already have nuclear weapons, nanotech weapons loom on the horizon (15-20 years from now). We can't afford to be warlike in an age of nanotech weaponry. Nukes destroy cities. Nano WMD's strip biospheres of planets (and for what, so the rich can get richer some how?). You do the math. ;)

[checkunderyourbed]

@elbowbiter1 And that's pretty much the answer to this whole discussion. Everyone has aspirations for the fate of mankind. But as long as different states and regimes exist there will be conflicts. Maybe it's some kind of bizarre socially constructed behavior that we evolved into in order to survive or perhaps it's a series of antiquated methods we chose for thousands of years that will change on its own. I don't know, but I think this is something that needs to solve itself.

[elbowbiter1]

@checkunderyourbed Oh I agree with both of your last posts and no, I haven't factored out the socio-economic implications. Dig a little deeper and you'll see a direct causal relationship between the socio-economic implications and our fear of others. We are a technological species entering an age of scientific mastery but we are clinging to modified and refined old technologies and ideas from before the bronze age. This is cultural lag run amok. We have to grow up.

[checkunderyourbed]

@elbowbiter1 And also I'm astounded to notice that you never factor in the socio-economic implications of war. People are feeding entire families weekly with money that the average American spends on a cup of coffee. As long as there is disparity, there is war. As long as there is injustice, there is war. When a young Palestinian is kicked out of his home for the creation of a profitable Jewish settlement, he straps himself with a bomb and catches a bus full of Jews. Technically, that is a war.

[checkunderyourbed]

@elbowbiter1 It's entirely unfeasible to believe that war will never re-occur in the near future. Fear causes war. People create weapons of mass destruction when they are afraid. There may never be a time when all people put away there fears of others. As our weapons get more and more dangerous (which is inevitable) countries must arm themselves against the fear of the unknown. It seems illogical but it's flawed human psyche. Whoever threw the first stone started something that may never end.

[vvyperr7]

When i was in  The navy and officer called me a spade. Yeah it happens, those (some not all) whites will make fun of other races.