Climate Change: 99 Second Opinions?

There are some laws that Congress can change. The laws of nature aren't among them. While lobbyists continue to call for more and more "second" opinions, Sheldon points out to his colleagues that the scientific community is solidly behind the fact that climate change is a real threat.

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[Chris56Y]

Every "climate skeptic" in Congress should listen to this. Great speech! Thank you, Senator Whitehouse.

[SunofVich]

We need more Sen. Whitehouse in Congress.

You can't have an economy if there is no environment. And rendering the planet uninhabitable to humanity is not going to prompt Jesus to come out of the clouds and take anyone to heaven.

God gave you a brain, use it.

[Sir Lew]

The people who made the model also included ERROR BARS. Do you understand what they are?

The real live data has been measured and it is OUTSIDE the error bars. Do you understand the significance of that little fact?

If you grasp this then it tells you what I am trying to get at. 16 years is enough to falsify the models are they were proposed by their creators.

[Sir Lew]

the lag varies but averages about 800 years. More importantly the point is that it is a LAG and therefore CO2 cannot be a cause but rather an effect. This is an effect of the annoying scientific law of causality. Maybe climate 'science' is somehow exempt from this law...

[Sir Lew]

GH theory is solid. It is the global CLIMATE models which have collapsed. Current temps are OUTSIDE the error bars of the 1990 predictions. Do you understand the significance of that?

[Quercuspalustris50]

And shoo....sorry, this is getting long and unorganized......

But another thought I had about the 15 year pause and the models is that Arctic ice is melting a lot faster than the models predicted (in other words more heat is infiltrating that part of the system than projected). 90% of the heat occurring secondary to the energy imbalance is going into the ocean. So 1) Regarding the entire system, there is no pause; 2) Imagine if just a tad bit of that heat was diverted into air surface temps

[Quercuspalustris50]

Part 2 of Models: The whole point of the models is to say IF a given set of conditions occurs, THEN a given outcome is probable; and then it breaks down different temp ranges and assigns probabilities to them.

So far the real temps are still within the error bars of the models, even though there's a lot of disinformation out there about such. The model runs that tracked reality the best were the ones that had conditions that closely matched reality's conditions.