Misha Mengelberg & Han Bennink Duo - Improvisation

Misha Mengelberg : piano
Han Bennink : drums

Live at the Bimhuis, Amsterdam, Netherlands, September 2, 2004.

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Music

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• Misha
• Mengelberg
• Han
• Bennink
• Jazz
• avant
• garde
• free
• jazz
• Free
• Improvisation
• Afijn

[heathdwatts]

These guys listened to Trane and Miles, but they didn't want to be clones, like so many people are now. This is completely improvised music, not jazz. Han and Misha have developed their own language, based on their own experiences. I love Trane and Miles, but the're gone. Now, when someone tries to play like them it's like grave robbing. People like Han, Misha, Peter, Cecil, and others keep the music alive. LIstening to people play changes often bores me to tears.

[xxlasherxx]

You have a great deal to learn.

Start with a few classes in music theory.

Then go listen to some other "worse than two year olds" like Brötzmann, Zorn, Ayler, Weasel Walter, Drake, Coleman and Cage...After being completely horrified and overwhelmed go back to listening to 311.

Repeat.

Music is anything and everything.

Open your mind...it's way more fun.

[vacuumtube1954]

Thank you for posting. Damn a great duet here. Enjoying this very much.

[jovesheerwater]

oh dear, a cat fight. take it outside ladees.

[lexo30]

@pjustusxi Agreed. Han Bennink is a fucking genius.

[lexo30]

@cvoisgreat Crap, and I'll tell you why. Other people have already dealt with the huge abysses in your musical knowledge, so I'll deal with the simple facts. Two year olds can't sit on the stool properly (they tend to fall off); they also keep dropping sticks, which this drummer never does; and their arms are so short that they can't reach the drums. I have a four-year-old daughter, so I know what I'm talking about. Do your research next time.

[BennyGaberMusic]

@xxlasherxx let's not also forget "the worse than two year olds" big band called the sun ra arkestra

[jerry88keys]

Nou, als ik me even niet goed voel, kijk/luister ik hiernaar en 't is als sneeuw voor de zon verdwenen.... 2:28 - geweldig, die drumstok krabbelt op zijn rug en Han kijkt er vervolgens met een vermanende blik naar. Wat een theater!

[fsamir111]

@heathdwatts, please type in, in the youtube search engine "rubalcaba autumn leaves". There you will find three guys who play through the changes... Here you will also cry from boredom? Generally, the music, based on the achievements of John Cage, quickly leads to saturation and boredom. Probably because of that is formed the artistic movement known as the "New simplicity". Igor Stravinsky once said: "If the critics would left me alone, I could still write a lot in the field of tonal music."

[fsamir111]

@heathdwatts when you carefully read my original post, you will find that I said that what we heard here is not bad. I said that, in generally, behind modern art hid a lot of quackery. So I still think. However, the style shown here is not more modern and avant-garde as some would like it to be. That was during the 60th's. Now the other things are modern. I appreciate the effort to be original, but not at any price.

[heathdwatts]

@fsamir111 Indian sitar players don't know how to play the changes of jazz. Are they quacks? These players have nothing to prove to you, me, or anyone. They are masters of their own domain. These two players have been developing their own language for almost fifty years and to call them quacks is to dismiss a vast amount of great music. Ornette Coleman, Cecli Taylor, Albert Ayler, and others planted the seeds for this music in the early 1960s, and it has developed worldwide since then.