Re: some Questionable teachings from the quran (2 of 2)

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Uploaded by on May 28, 2007

Iceyyy makes some insinuations about two Quranic verses, in her usual manner. She claims that: 1) Verse 4:3 uses the word Fainkihoo but that it doesnt mean marry 2) Verse 56:19 talks about "cracks and bleeds" in reference to "pretty boys". Some observations and comments...

For the complete picture please see Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ShJGDbtwz4

Peace, fot

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  • Hey thefotfoundation,

    WILL YOU ACCEPT CHALLENGE TO DEBATE Investigateislam?

    He gave you an open challenge.

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Debate with him...!

  • What is it that he wants to debate that cant be debated in this forum?

    He make ridiculous claims and actually debating him on these peripheral non-topics is legitimizing his claims. Thats the last thing I want to do. Hot air is best left to rise.

    Let him make his claims, if they are worth replying to then someone will.

    His deceptive techniques do an amazing thing which is keep people away from what he calls to. For which I thank him.

    Peace, fot

  • Fair enough, Please debate in the same forum. he posted two videos in your response. please make up your response to these. I will be waiting for your video response to him. A BIG THANK YOU!

  • Making ridiculous claims, as he has, is not a debate.

    I made this two part video in May 2008, in response to a video his wife iceyyy made. He "responded" to only the first part of this video very recently.

    It took him 15 months to come up with another more elaborate method of trying to make the same claim.

  • FOT, thank you for your reply. you do not know that she is his wife...so you should not have said that. you should not assume such thing. I follow his videos and he seems to be rude sometime, if he is a very good speaker (AS YOU ARE) he might pose even greater threat....anyways....

    By debate i mean a round of rebuttal. He seems to have objection on your videos....all i am requesting is to address back to his comments...and prove him wrong..... that will be a great favour. thanks.

  • Nadeemjc1, As far as I am aware iceyyy is his wife, I may be wrong and if I am then apologies might be forthcoming. Calling iceyy his wife is not mean to be derogatory.

    I hope you make comments on his videos that you follow reprimanding him about his abusive manner and words (or you turn the other cheek?).

    He hasnt made any "objections on" my videos but has reasserted iceyyy's claim without addressing the reply I gave to iceyyy.

    So he has NOT rebutted my video.

  • I posted the video he "replied to" in May 2007.

    It took him 15 months and still he didnt explain why THREE prominent non-Muslims translated the word Nikah as Marriage in the very verse he spoke about? Why didnt he?

    He is not interested in the Truth, just in malignment, as is clear from all of his videos. I dont play that game.

    I am not a "very good speaker" by the way. In fact I am no-one and no-body but it doesnt take much to show the flaws in these types of false low-down dirty attacks.

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  • nadeemjc1, if he wants debate, look for those who challenged him before and he runs away , many people have debunked him like:Osama Abdullah,Sami zaatari.investigateislam has been debunked many times , forget about yor bible open your heart and mind and see the videos of:

    aljawaabassaheeh,IslamicRespon­ses,salam752,peaceemaan

    there are other people but I don't remember them

  • Salam brother ... very eloquently put, mashALLAH you show that Muslims have 'dignity' and I agree with all you said about 'repelling' .. I'm a recent convert to Islam, and people such as this woman turned me right off Christianity, I didn't want to be anything like that! Alhamdulillah I was guided to Islam!

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  • Hi FOT, thanks for your reply. I was very busy and did not had a chance to get back.

    about Iceyyy being CP's wife

    If someone is not sure of any information then one should not quote as truth. It shows you are biased.

    Let me ask you a question please.

    What do you think is the punishment of a person who leaves islam for any other religion? (apostate)

    Shall be waiting for your reply.

  • MiniMe, Thanks 4 the message. I heard few challenges to invesitgateislam they want to talk about The Bible...i have seen its been a challange to agree to a debate topic. Investigateislam wants to debate on quran and prove how it is a word of satan or lie or whatever but the word of God. Osama had 4 hours debate with him but outcome is not in favour of muslims. Nadir ahmed used bad words in bebate...he called investigateislam a dog etc. Nadir had a debate with James white and seems defeated badly

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