@highwingprop Think about it, were you not trained to use ailerons during a take off roll, or taxi, in a cross wind? If the whole wing and aileron is completely stalled, then what effect does that have? Next time you go down the runway in a fast taxi, say 25 mph in a no wind condition then move the ailerons side to side, and of course you will be able to bank your wings side to side, long before the plane is ready to fly, but the wing is still stalled at this point, but has effective ailerons
@highwingprop According to the text books (FAA) in order to spin, the wings must be stalled, but one wing must be more stalled than the other. There is a grey area to stalling a wing where it still has some effectiveness. Therefore you will usually still get some response out of at least one of the ailerons, and that makes a difference. If both wings are stalled the same amount, the stall will break straight forward and not spin. Anyway, as far as those GA trainers, you're incorrect also.
@qflyer Ah... right. But would it be fair to say the same wouldn't apply to the 152's, 172's, cherokee 140's, and etc. (your average GA trainer?) 'cause wouldn't the wings need to have stall strips installed, or like the cirrus wing design that has the wing root "tucked in" relatively to the outer half of the wing?
@highwingprop The entire wing is not stalled. Typically wings are designed to stall from the wing root and progress outward towards the tips. So the technique fhhzv was mentioning does work.
Im only 14 but have flown in a Citabria Adventure and we where crusiing at 7000 and it was getting close to descent time so he asked if i wanted to take the elvator down and i said yess the rest was history
Wow did you mean to do 28 rotations or did it take that long to recover
shagy2shagy 5 months ago
@highwingprop Think about it, were you not trained to use ailerons during a take off roll, or taxi, in a cross wind? If the whole wing and aileron is completely stalled, then what effect does that have? Next time you go down the runway in a fast taxi, say 25 mph in a no wind condition then move the ailerons side to side, and of course you will be able to bank your wings side to side, long before the plane is ready to fly, but the wing is still stalled at this point, but has effective ailerons
fhhzv 1 year ago
@highwingprop According to the text books (FAA) in order to spin, the wings must be stalled, but one wing must be more stalled than the other. There is a grey area to stalling a wing where it still has some effectiveness. Therefore you will usually still get some response out of at least one of the ailerons, and that makes a difference. If both wings are stalled the same amount, the stall will break straight forward and not spin. Anyway, as far as those GA trainers, you're incorrect also.
8literbeater 1 year ago
Arrghh, that stall warning on the Citabrias is so loud and annoying...
sfxmann 1 year ago
@qflyer Ah... right. But would it be fair to say the same wouldn't apply to the 152's, 172's, cherokee 140's, and etc. (your average GA trainer?) 'cause wouldn't the wings need to have stall strips installed, or like the cirrus wing design that has the wing root "tucked in" relatively to the outer half of the wing?
highwingprop 1 year ago
@highwingprop The entire wing is not stalled. Typically wings are designed to stall from the wing root and progress outward towards the tips. So the technique fhhzv was mentioning does work.
qflyer 1 year ago
@fhhzv huh? a requirement for a spin to occur is a stall. if the wings are stalled, how would there be any aileron authority??
highwingprop 1 year ago
dude it's scarier than deep spiraling a paraglider.. but its really cool great vid
PARATERRORIST 2 years ago
Next time you try that, use the ailerons to slow down, or speed up the turns. Works great.
fhhzv 3 years ago
Im only 14 but have flown in a Citabria Adventure and we where crusiing at 7000 and it was getting close to descent time so he asked if i wanted to take the elvator down and i said yess the rest was history
StellaInc 3 years ago