Bujinkan Ninpo Taijutsu - Belgium Taikai 2009 - Hanbo Jutsu

Shihan PH Steyt demonstrates a simple hanbo technique during last Belgian Taikai (2009)

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Sports

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• Bujinkan
• Ninpo
• Taijutsu
• Belgium
• Taikai
• 2009
• Hanbo
• Jutsu
• Steyt
• Brussels

[isjtarjr]

Ah, I never take part in youtube discussions, so pointless, but anyway.

This exercise is not a combat technique, it's a didactic way of learning how to take an opponents' balance in an enlarged, exaggerated form.

He'll be the first to say that you should never use a technique like this in a combat situation. It's about footwork and changing an opponents posture. If that's not the way you think martial arts should be learned, fine, but it has nothing to do with larp or whatever.

[bizitch71717]

are they actually serious? i was kind of having a bad day. this makes it better.

[k1tsum3]

This is ridiculous. Embarrassment to the art. It's no wonder people talk trash about the art.

[slapupchrist]

recoveringangels, one of my teachers used to say that he'd rather grab a weapon than use hand-to-hand techniques; that is a device that is used by Bujinkan teachers so as to come across as 'honest'.

The reality, though, is that every official video of Bujinkan training, and every seminar and class I've ever seen, and every clip on You Tube shows the same thing: LARPing.

It's all very well to THEORISE (a very important word, here) about self defence, but how you train is what really counts.

[slapupchrist]

recoveringangels, I'm not confusing you with anyone; I'm questioning your claims about the Bujinkan.

I don't mean to be rude (I've been called that plenty of times before); I simply disagree that the Bujinkan is either an effective self defence system or a collection of proven Samurai and Ninja arts.

You asked "are you saying its of no use at all?" The answer is this: I am saying that locks, throws, chokes, etc need to be trained properly in order to be skilled in applying them in combat.

[slapupchrist]

recoveringangels, here are two things that I would like you to consider:

1. Are you basing your assumption that Bujinkan taijutsu is 'pretty effective' on actual experience of it being used against a fully resisting opponent?

2. You said "its hard training where i go not pussyfooting about"; can and will you upload some footage of the 'hard training' at your dojo, so that the first ever footage of realistic Bujinkan training can be seen on You Tube?

[slapupchrist]

Firstly, recoveringangels, you are NOT training in ninjutsu. The word 'ninjutsu' means stealth, espionage, etc by ninja.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ONE ON PLANET EARTH WHO IS TEACHING REAL NINJUTSU; IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

What you are learning is called 'taijutsu'.

Secondly, I was in the Bujinkan for ten years. I trained in Japan, as well as various other countries. THERE WAS NEVER ANY 'HARD TRAINING'.

If you train Bujinkan-style techniques against resistance, please upload some video.

[slapupchrist]

recoveringangels, taijutsu is just another term for jujutsu. Jujutsu is locking, throwing, choking and grappling. Effective taijutsu/jujutsu skills are valid for self defence.

Slow motion role playing with compliant training partners who attack in unrealistic ways, and fall over when they are breathed on, are NOT valid ways of learning self defence.

Does that make things clearer for you?

[ninjutsuHH]

@mdiem we dont spam videos,. to make it cle

ar you kill the name of ninjutsu

with the things you present here. call it bujinkan budo taijutsu but please not ninjutsu

[mdiem]

@ninjutsuHH

Could you please point out where what was shown in that video was claimed to be ninjutsu?

You might accidentally be responding to a different video, or...

just spamming up the comments of every Bujinkan related video.

[slapupchrist]

mrdubcrazy, the whole of the Bujinkan is just totally ridiculous.

The Bujinkan gets its notoriety by being unproven and unrealistic. Yet, it also gets its support by being unproven. You see, the thousands of deluded guys out there who love Hatsumi support him and his teachings based on the following: "He's Japanese, he's old, he trained with Takamatsu, and THERE'S NO PROOF THAT HIS DENSHO DON'T EXIST"...

So, Buj ninjers use NO PROOF as a means of... um... proof???

Ninjers... LOL!!!