TVR Tuscan Starting Up

Tvr Tuscan S or Redrose starting up

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[Gwynne66]

I've driven a Tuscan and practiced panic stops on a wet road. I can tell you from personal experience that TVRs don't need ABS.

ABS is just a band-aid fix for bad engineering.  If you design the brakes right, you don't need ABS. ABS is for cars that are too heavy for their brake disks and have over-assissted hydraulic brakes to compensate for this. If you do that, you turn the brake pedal into an "on/off" switch and you need ABS to keep the wheels from locking.

[KaguyaRyuuji]

love that roar

[dihlaa]

хуйня

[Gwynne66]

@JzAeroo

No, that's not what I said. Electronic nannies don't help inexperienced drivers, they actually hurt them by lulling the inexperienced into a false sense of security. I've lost count of the idiots I see driving in the snow at normal speed and saying "Oh well, I have ABS and AWD, so I'll be fine". That's nonsense. Electronics don't suspend the laws of physics.

Fact: If a car's brake discs are big enough, it doesn't need ABS. If it needs ABS, the brake discs aren't big enough.

[kixnet]

Who gives a shit whether a car has ABS or not? This videos about a TVR Tuscan.

[JzAeroo]

@Gwynne66 So actually you're repeating my point. "These are systems for less experienced drivers". End of story.

Not every car suits 35cm brake disks, its not even necessary to fit every car with big brake disks.

[Gwynne66]

@JzAeroo

Who said anything about "'sport brakes"?

Also, I've driven many TVRs, not just a Tuscan. I've driven a 5.0 liter Griffith, a Cerbera and a Tamora.

But I can definitely say ABS is a band-aid... because that's exactly what it is. The first models of Lotus Elise also didn't have ABS.

Also, ABS doesn't help drivers who "make mistakes". It help manufacturers who don't make their brake disks big enough to stop the car properly.

ESP and TC also aren't at issue re: experience.

[JzAeroo]

@Gwynne66 In other words, you think every single car should be equipped with sport brakes? You know that upgrading these brakes is a costly addition. Besides, you can't just say ABS is a 'band-aid' if you have only driven one Tuscan. That's just ONE case. I've been in one as well and you can brake perfectly with it, but it's always safer at times when the driver makes mistakes. A driver isn't flawless and not every driver is experienced enough to drive without ABS, ESP or TCS.

[Gwynne66]

@JzAeroo

ABS doesn't "save you" in a "sudden lane change". First of all, anyone who drives a Tuscan in the snow is a head case.

ABS is only necessary when the brake discs aren't big enough to do the job properly and hydraulics are used to boost braking force. This reduces the control the driver has over the brakes.

I've driven a Tuscan in the rain and I can tell you from personal experience that ABS isn't needed.

ABS isn't a safety feature, it is a band-aid fix for bad engineering.

[JzAeroo]

@Gwynne66 in normal situations you don't need ABS indeed, the thing is, when it gets wet or it starts to snow and you have to make a sudden lane change, ABS is the system that saves you. It will be okay for one or maybe two times, but on the limit or when you're not paying attention for a second, you might just slide forwards with no feedback from the steering wheel anymore. For average drivers, ABS is a safety feature and that's why its on most cars. TVRs are for more experienced drivers.

[matlab777]

мудак!!!!!!!!!1

[teanshin]

i remember when Jeremy said that by EU ruls all new manufactured cars must have ABS...TVR said we didnt get that memo...lol