Eugene Ysaye plays Hungarian dance No. 5 (Brahms)
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wonderful: legendary violinists to hear in youtube! thanks!!
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@2ndviolinist I have listened to many of the violinists that have been called greatest or best, but I come back to Heifetz all the time. Kreisler, Menuhin, Rabin and Oistrakh have all made one or two recordings that I enjoyed more then Heifetz's, but their technique was equal to him at best.
Sarasate was a great composer, but I have never heard anything that proved his technique was special.
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@themontyshow Intonation is a little more precise? Can you really say that with a straight face? I hated Dominants. They hold tune but start out harsh and ugly and stay that way until they broke.
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The biggest misconception of the 20th & 21st century is that Heifetz set the technical bar higher. It's such a persistent lie. Many before and during his time were his equal and better. Even limiting technique to facility, it's still a lie. Listen to Sarasate, Prihoda, Kubelik, von Vecsey, Maud Powell, etc. and tell me that lie again. This doesn't address artistry. Here, nearly all the early greats outshine Heifetz - Kreisler, Ysaye, too many to list.
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I don't think that the technical standards are any lower now or even for hefietz than they were in the days of ysaye and joachim.
i think intonation is a little more precise, but have you ever tried playing on all uncovered gut strings? i bet if they had pirazzis and dominants, they'd be just as in tune
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What amuses me of Ysaye was that his slides were very unique. He had different emotions of slides and many layers of color in his playing. If you hear carefully, you can hear his arranges of slides in this piece, or in any music that he has played. And as Dogaradodia said, it is In tergalactic. Superb playing with this incredible technique he had in his playing. To be Frank, he is not the best violinist that I've heard, but like I say, everyone has their own playing styles
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@chris2442uk Kreisler was universally liked as a person, he seems to have had quite a charming personality. Of Heifetz it was said, "As a violinist you can't touch him, as a human being you wouldn't want to." I think Kreisler was being kind and he certainly didn't quit performing and recording. His quote can also be interpreted as the critics and press giving so much attention to Heifetz that others were being, rightly or wrongly, out shown.
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@2ndviolinist Interesting that you say Kreisler is better than Heifetz. After Kreisler saw Heifetz perform he said, "The rest of us might as well break our violins over our knees." So, Kreisler himself would not agree with you.
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So textbook...
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@sobie99 I know what you mean, but I hardly think that Heifetz could take a backseat to anyone in music. His interpretations are legendary. Watch him explain how/why in his Master Classes videos.Nothing gets by him artistically. Little do people know that Heifetz was also a master violist & was able to play all of the Beethoven PIANO Sonatas! He was also able to memorize any score after only a single playing & could make a factory made violin sound like a strad. How much more do YOU want?
To say that Ysaye, Huberman, & Szigeti are "far greater artists" is simply ridiculous even in an opinion. Heifetz needs no defense; his reputation as the "greatest violinist of the 20th century" still stands. I don't, of course listen to only Heifetz, but whenever I hear a Heifetz recording, my ears suddenly perk up & I know immediately that it is him. 3 violinists, among many others, idolized him; Perlman, Stern, & Rabin. Stern placed him among the top 5 violinists of all time.
unclejuniorsoprano 1 year ago
@unclejuniorsoprano Well, it's good to notice me stating "artists" rather than violinists...as I said I acknowledge Heifetz his technical skill as a violinist...it's just that... I want more ;)
sobie99 1 year ago 3
this is how they played before Heifetz (whose playing I love) came along and set the technical bar higher. In any case, Ysaÿe thankfully brought us a wonderfully round bow arm and continuous vibrato. Thank you!
taiwan886 2 years ago
@taiwan886 Well, to be honest, I've never been a big fan of Heifetz, though I do acknowledge his technical skills, I always think that communication comes first in art, rather than a technical show-off. Ysaye, enescu, huberman, szigeti.. are far greater artists in my opinion ;)
sobie99 2 years ago 4
Certified Intergalactic!
Dogaradodia 2 years ago 5
hehe, that's what I thought !
I just couldn't find the right words ;-)
sobie99 2 years ago