Gus on The Rule of 4 and 2

Gus explains "The Rule of 4 and 2" when calculating your Winning Chance.

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[dnycly]

if u want tips for poker listen to the pros the rest is just opinions but nowadays evry1 thinks they r a pro

[Harlingtonjnr3]

@bamboo What matters is whether he will pay if you hit. Say you have 8 outs and are in position and he bets 40% pot on the turn. You are getting 40 into 140 & have to pay 28% with 16% chance to hit. If you know he will bet 40% pot if you hit and then call a 50% PB raise you can call as 40 into 322 (140 + 40 + PotBet of 72 - your 40 bet + his call of 110) is slightly less than 12%. As such it is +EV. You have to evaluate what your potential win is when you make the call.

[NolitaDenise]

Pot odds can be close enough. Especially when playing for small amounts where most of the other players are only thinking about the physical size of the pot and all their outs(even just 4 or 8).

I'm far from an expert. I just have some of this stuff down.

[NolitaDenise]

@bamboo - wrong. % to win has to be bigger than pot odds in order for a call to be correct. Exceptions are if u think your opponent is bluffing and/or bullying too much(have to take a stand sometime).

Close estimate is to double your % to improve win. That's the % of the pot you can reasonably call. Still, if you're playing well, you'll be manipulating the pot odds during the hand.

[bamboo]

The rule of 4 and 2 is SO pointless. In a no limit game if the pot is £100 on the turn and you have 8 outs you're NEVER gonna see a £16 pound bet....

Anyway you have to pay to make draws in no limit

[radamesort]

this seems much easier that dividing the number of outs by the number of unseen cards in the deck..

are they equally effective?

[ojideagu]

Any outs

[ojideagu]

Count the number of cards you need to hit your draw. Multiply that number by 4, and that's the % chance you have of getting that card by the Turn and RIVER combined.

If you want the odds of hitting it by the Turn alone card then multiply it by 2. If you miss on the turn, then again multiply by 2 for the chance to hit on the River alone.

[World65FTW]

is it a MUST for only 8 outs?

[MegaFuller]

Someone explain :(